http://content.microsoftstore.com/store/xblive2yr-offer/

sry for horrible editing i'm too stupid for it^^

Oh yeah, without any extras this sucks. I still say there is a chance that there are unknowns, possibly in favor of the consumer, lol.

I was about to put this post!!

There is also termination fees aswell:

Update: In case you're curious, yes, early termination fees will apply if you cut out of your two-year deal early. It's a prorated affair, with users asked to pay less the longer they maintain the contract. Those who part ways after only a month will have to pay $250, while those who cancel with just a month remaining will owe $12. All told, someone buying this and keeping true to the contract terms will pay $459 for the bundle and Live access, whereas those buying outright could snag it for $420 (or less, if scouring the web for cheaper Live subscriptions).

What the hell is a Microsoft Store?

Absolute rip off

While not a great deal, it's a sound business practice.

Stores... owned by, wait for it... Microsoft.

I believe they've only got them in U.S.A, Japan and perhaps some other places. Not where I live anyway, and I doubt where you are either. ;)

So.... I think some people owe me an apology. :)

Bad deal is bad.

what a question is this? what is an apple store? or what is a mc donalds?

While it kind of sucks that they aren't offering anything extra it's a great extra option that people have to buy a 360.

In all honesty if they had something like this for the next box, depending on my financial situation when it comes out, there'd be a chance I would go that route.

With the 360 I had to wait until early 2007 to buy one (when I really wanted to buy one right away) but if they would have had a cheaper model with a subscription then I could have gotten it much closer to release.