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I`m glad Nintendo is going for the hardcore gamers, or as Iwata said, those who have gaming as a hobby.
Despite the colour of the market, a market is still a market and dismissing any is the same as losing money.
Wii became so strong that Nintendo can afford to wait 1 year to fully go after the non gamers or the more casual crowd - not that it won`t try to appeal to them since day one. A tablet for a controller is the perfect way to attract those who already game on tablets!
But unfortunately, Nintendo can not wait to attract the core gamers not just by not giving them the games they want but also by giving once again that the next Wii will be a casual/non-gamers machine.

In the end it`s a matter of perception. Something that has to start with developers.
If Nintendo doesn`t present them a strategy that shows them that their games will have room to sell on Wii U than they won`t bet on Wii U. And if they don`t bet on Wii U, core gamers won`t buy the console because their games of choice won`t be there and that would be Wii all over again.

Looking at the games already announced we can see that Wii U won`t be a Wii "2".

But can Nintendo`s strategy work: first the core and than the casual/non-gamers.
Well, it worked for MS so i can`t it work for Nintendo?
Nintendo has brands that resonate with the mass audience but still has to try and captivate the hardcore. If it can do that, it has a chance of coming on top with the red and blue market on it`s side even if it doesn`t fully conquer both.
Right now, it might in a better position than it was with Wii.



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mushroomboy5 said:
Sounds like the nintendo I know and love could be back! to hell with the consequences.

^.^ That's it.



To be honest, nintendos marketing strategy as been near flawless. Looking at the 3DS i have no doubt they know what they are doing now.



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lilbroex said:

Why is this a complaint? You only get one Xbox controller, one PS3 controller, One Dreamcast controller.

Most systems only come with one controller. When did that suddenly become a major issue.

You can buy more controllers for those systems and use them concurrently. We're not sure yet if the Wii U can actually support more than one tablet controller. If it can, we don't know how expensive that controller might be.

Given the Wii U's focus on asymmetric gameplay (we've already seen some novel ideas from Ubisoft on this), I'm not sure if it's really a major issue either.



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sperrico87 said:
When Nintendo caters to us instead of to our parents and grandparents, we're all happier because we get better games. But that does come at a cost... remember the GameCube? lol. As long as they find a middle ground they should be alright. Nintendo should be happy with 60-70 million Wii U lifetime sales.

 Unfortunately, when the GameCube came out I was already in my 20's; so like everyone over the age of 12, it wasn't geared towards me. Wii was a much more friendly console for people in their 20's.



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Jumpin said:
sperrico87 said:
When Nintendo caters to us instead of to our parents and grandparents, we're all happier because we get better games. But that does come at a cost... remember the GameCube? lol. As long as they find a middle ground they should be alright. Nintendo should be happy with 60-70 million Wii U lifetime sales.

 Unfortunately, when the GameCube came out I was already in my 20's; so like everyone over the age of 12, it wasn't geared towards me. Wii was a much more friendly console for people in their 20's.


Agree. Wii was more friendly and anybody can play it, especially both Wii Sports and MKWii.



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happydolphin said:
amp316 said:
archbrix said:
amp316 said:

I actually agree that people didn't want to upgrade to a 3DS because of the stereoscopic 3D.  I argue that most people don't want to upgrade to the Wii U because of a super expensive super controller. 

The difference here is that unlike stereoscopic 3D, the controller is actually capable of enhancing/changing the gameplay experience itself.


This is true, but the system will only have one tablet controller included and we can only imagine how much another will cost.  The Wii was all about getting a group of people together playing and having fun.  With the Wii U, two people will be able to experience the awesomeness of the controller if you have a lot of money.

It even looks like we're only getting 1 padlet for certain graphics intensive games.

But even then, the thing about the WiiU is that you'll be able to hook up 4 wii-chucks and 1 upadlet, that's 5 controllers in total on a system, with the possibility of a 2nd padlet on graphics-loose games, so a total of 6 controllers. You can also pass the padlet around during a play session giving everyone a chance to try the unique experience, as well as the traditional one. It really meshes well with the deeper and wider vision of the system, even from a physical, controller layout standpoint.

 

serious inquiry, how much games will actually have 5 players playing at ONCE. PS3 could actually support six and the only game I know that actually does it is Xmen arcade. IMHO that 5 player function isnt something that i am personally blown away by, but time will tell



I think it'll actually be a really important part of the casual strategy, and games like Catch mii and Rayman legends are proof of it. It'll be more awesome than you can image, my last experience with something like this was crystal chronicles on the cube and it really is something special and exhilarating, there's something cool about having a different experience from someone else as you're playing a game, it makes you or that person get that special thing where they have some kind of unique ability. It'll be cool and really neat for game parties..