I for one am glad. I could really care less about who makes more money than who and this loss and that loss, im not an investor, i care about games, and if Ninty is leading more toward a GC model, a system with games I actually wanted to play, then im on board

Not even sure what people think anymore

People think Wii U will be full of casual games so it will suck

People think it will be full of FPS so it will suck

people thinking not focusing on casuals will bring sales down so it will suck

EBWOP (since you're probably reading the other one):
Rol, knowing Nintendo's track record to follow through on its word as of late, I would be much more worried if they gave a bad strategy than if they gave me one that I find sound, because in fact I do believe they will follow through.

On that premise, I find grounds to judge the strategy at face value, and work from there. Given my judgement at face value to be a good one, I have no reason to be worried. This is 3DS take 2, minus all the mistakes of the past. PLUS, this is a home console, so even less reason to be worried.

It's the handheld that can less easily afford failure, it is the ark for Nintendo in times of crisis (as we all remember from the N64/Cube days, yes, I said pokemon). So given the strategy, given what it touches (the home market), we have little to be worried about. At worst, it's cube again, and we know Nintendo stayed more than afloat. At best, it's Wii+HD twins, and the world of Nintendo is in heaven again.

What the heck does that mean?!

This, i dont know why people are freaking, its probably because their company wont be the "winner", because we all know the winner gets ALL the best games and support

I think people just try to find anything to argue or criticize them about. I mean everyone complained that the Wii had no core games now Nintendo says they will focus on the core games first then games that appeal to the mass now people still are complaining but im not going to enter the argument i have my opinion and views on how this will go down and silly arguments are not really gonna change it

I really don't know what to say... I'm without words...

All this time I've been doing my best to debate the points, doing my best to be honest, to be straight and say it as it is. You've pegged me a liar, you've pegged me a disruptor, a hypocrite, an idiot, a stubborn, an incompetent (in our common hobby).

I don't know whether you are the ultimate troll, or if you are sincerely making an effort to help, but are doing the most awkward job at doing it.

You know Rol, in my life, I've had people lie to me, steal from me, threaten me physically and abuse of my trusting nature. I've got to say, the one you're presenting to me today, it's a tough one.

The evidence is pretty clear, many people disagree with me.

Certainly I have alot of things to correct, but remember that when you point a finger, there are three pointing back at you.

If I can console myself of this, clearly you, Amp and noname are closer friends than I can wish for. And you know what, I take pleasure in that. But when I do have friends, I treat them with all my heart. I've shown that side of me to you, but you starkly rejected it. But if I have the choice between having myself to trust, and waiting for the right friends to present themselves, or be surrounded with people who only know how to flatter me, you can be certain which path I'll take, and it isn't the one with flattery.

If I can also console myself of this, it's that CGI actually understood me, after interrogation. The proof you will find in the PABR vs SSB thread (take 1). Some people, it seems, are honest enough to consider the words I speak, and value them. I'm not so sure I can say the same about you.

I don't completely doubt that you made an effort with me, but you certainly have your share of mistakes in the matter.

I'll just leave it at that.

With that,

good night.

LoL. Where to begin? For the life of me I've never been able to grasp what the hell a casual gamer is. I've always felt it was a dismissive term the industry coined in order to marginalize the Wii's success and its customers.

What Mr.Iwata illustrates in his most recent investors meeting is his total lack of understanding what made Wii and DS, for that matter, a success in the first place. Which is scary tbh. Because if you are wrong in understanding your success, you will be wrong in attempting to replicate that success. If your premise is wrong, your conclusions drawn from said premise will inevitably be wrong as well.

I don't know when it happened, but I somewhere along the way became the 'casual gamer' lol. I bought a Wii not for Twilight Princess, but for Wii Sports. The Wii U just doesn't look appealing to me atm. And CEO speak will not get me excited about the Wii U. Iwata speaks as if the Wii was a 'mistake.' But for me the Wii was my favorite system since the SNES..up until 2010-11, coincidentally, the same years when IGN was talking about Nintendo catering to the 'hardcore'

The only company responsible for the Wii's success was Nintendo, third parties did not make the Wii, therefore they could never break the Wii. I fear gen 7 is probably my swan song from gaming. Wii U is not a Wii 2 or Super Wii, it is looking more like a Gamecube in Wii's clothing. The only shortcomings I could see about the Wii in its prime, was its lack of online capablities or OS, graphical output means jack shit. But since tech always improves, I would have expected the next Wii to fix these flaws, HD output was inevitable, but honestly. I would of just improved the accuracy and comfort of the Wiimote, included a classic controller out the box for the gamers who prefer that way to game, allowed the VC and other games purchased on the Wii to be transferred to the new system without additional cost etc.

I'd also give games like MK and 2D Mario the royal treatment in production values. I'm not a PC gamer, so with Nintendo looking to go that route, I must bid farewell, as they are the last of an old guard. I don't think Wii U will be a success. I will wait until E3 to see if this remains true. But the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. If Iwata and company are following the same formula as 3DS or even Sony and M$, and expecting healthy profits, they will be sadly mistaken. And by definition, they would also be rather insane.

Good point, Rol. Similarly, it might be already too late as some core gamers could actually consider that a Wii is a Wii and that the "U" makes no difference. What if their opinion is "Nintendo is not for us"? M. Iwata seems to reckon he will get core gamers back with a couple of 3rd party core games, but it may be trickier than that...