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amp316 said:

No pouty face for me.  As long as I get my Nintendo games I will buy it. 

I just think that their strategy isn't wise for printing money and that is what business is about.

But the reason you gave doesn't hold. The mass will see the value in the WiiU come E3, there will be headlines about it, much more than an industry press release, that's for sure! E3 is huge, much bigger than this, and will get much more exposure.

Don't be worried! What other concerns do you have other than that?



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happydolphin said:
NintendoPie said:

It counts as a casual game and thats that. Mario Kart is loved by anyone, that is why it is casual.

No, I'm a "skilled" gamer and I like it, and so have many other "skilled" players. May I remind you that Super Mario Kart started on a non-casual console (the SNES)?

So yeah, pretty black on shite Py.

Edit: That, right there ^^^^, was a typo

Sure it was.

The earlier MK's were more core targeted it seems but MK:DD!!, MK:DS, and MKW are not Core, they are casual. 



RolStoppable said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Taken from the OP: "Accordingly, Iwata explained, it decided not to flood the 3DS's early release slate with casual games, instead prioritising core titles such as Super Mario 3D Land, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Ocarina of Time 3D and Mario Kart 7."

Alright. For a second I thought you are one of those guys who change the labels based on whatever suits your argument better.

Nah, that's you mostly.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
amp316 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:


I think it's more like: "Hey, casual gamers! How nice of to come aboard the Wii! Now, would you please stay here for a moment while I go and get back the core gamers who went to the other systems."


Right, and we see what a good idea it was to make them wait with the 3DS.  Things worked out really well for Nintendo last year, didn't they? 


I don't see your point. It was the lack of core titles (Mario Kart, 3D Land) that kept the 3DS from selling. The casuals just won't buy the system. 2D Mario may get quite a few over the fence (unlike Nintendogs) but most will just play games on their iPhone.

My point is that sales were bad and that if the same strategy is used for the Wii U that the same thing will happen.



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NintendoPie said:
happydolphin said:
NintendoPie said:

It counts as a casual game and thats that. Mario Kart is loved by anyone, that is why it is casual.

No, I'm a "skilled" gamer and I like it, and so have many other "skilled" players. May I remind you that Super Mario Kart started on a non-casual console (the SNES)?

So yeah, pretty black on shite Py.

Edit: That, right there ^^^^, was a typo

Sure it was.

The earlier MK's were more core targeted it seems but MK:DD!!, MK:DS, and MKW are not Core, they are casual. 

Come on man, these are the same games with updated visuals, updated physics, more courses, characters and weapons. How can that classify as more casual, please.

High sales just tell us that, despite being traditionally a core game, this game managed to also appeal to the masses. It's simple really.



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happydolphin said:
amp316 said:

No pouty face for me.  As long as I get my Nintendo games I will buy it. 

I just think that their strategy isn't wise for printing money and that is what business is about.

But the reason you gave doesn't hold. The mass will see the value in the WiiU come E3, there will be headlines about it, much more than an industry press release, that's for sure! E3 is huge, much bigger than this, and will get much more exposure.

Don't be worried! What other concerns do you have other than that?

Why does my reason not hold?  I think that it does.

Here's my concern and I think that it's a legit one:  Ninty just posted their first loss ever and they plan on using the same strategy.  What makes you think that this couldn't result in more losses?



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RolStoppable said:
happydolphin said:

Nah, that's you mostly.

Personally, I reject the "casual" label, because it's synonymous with garbage or games of lesser worth.

And why in the world would you say that? Shovelware is shovelware, casual offerings are casual, i.e. laid back.

There is nothing less quality in that, it's just a different style. Wii Sports, my friend, was a good game. It certainly wasn't garbage.

Was it laid back? Certainly was. It was casual. Do the games indicate as much? Yes they do.



Please guys, each words with their associated meanings. We need to get somewhere I'm really getting sick and tired of dragging everybody's ass towards Nintendo heaven



happydolphin said:
RolStoppable said:
happydolphin said:

Nah, that's you mostly.

Personally, I reject the "casual" label, because it's synonymous with garbage or games of lesser worth.

And why in the world would you say that? Shovelware is shovelware, casual offerings are casual, i.e. laid back.

There is nothing less quality in that, it's just a different style. Wii Sports, my friend, was a good game. It certainly wasn't garbage.

Was it laid back? Certainly was. It was casual. Do the games indicate as much? Yes they do.

Try getting all the platinum medals in Wii Sports and tell me how casual of a game it is.



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Nintendo have come a long, long way only to place themselves in a really sticky situation here.