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LCD LED vs Plasma for gaming

LCD 44 9.95%
 
Plasma 195 44.12%
 
LCD LED 202 45.70%
 
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fordy said:
slowmo said:
brendude13 said:
slowmo said:


I won't get into the entire debate and I agree the guy is very obnoxious in his posts but different HDMI cables can produce different quality outputs.  The caveat is that when I say different quality it would usually mean the inferior cable suffers complete drop outs and/or a white out effect on pizels on the screen.  I personally say that a cable will either work or not as the tolerence usually is just that.  Sorry if this isn't relevant to the HDMI cable discussion you were having.

In general I forgot to mention at a short length there is rarely any difference in HDMI cables, it's only when you start to look at cables in excess of 10m where manufacturing quality will improve reliabvility and compatability with devices as the digital signal is more likely to be transmitted more reliably on cables that have less cross talk.  Better cables will also be harder to damage which can produce signal degradation too.  Despite HDMI standards some devices will naturally output stronger signals than others and some displays will be better at reconstructing a damaged or deteriotaed signal so a cable that works for one TV isn't guaranteed to work for another for example (again very long cables).

Sorry, I failed to mention that.

I did mention that a poor HDMI cable will be more likely to break and will just not work leaving a blank screen. I've heard that if you have a very long HDMI cable that is very cheap you can get artefacting, but it isn't really a drop in quality, the artefacting is more like coloured blotches and sparkles. Anybody who has this won't think that the image quality is poor, they will think that something is seriously broken.

It's a possibility that he is mistaking an anologue cable for a HDMI cable, but given his post history, I doubt it.

 

It's rather strange like you say as I do wonder what he means by obvious quality differences.  It's just impossible for the picture brightness, colour, contrast or sharpness to be different across two HDMI cables, like you say, it's artefacting that occurs.  The only possible theoretical solution I can think of is if somehow one cable was faulty to an extent that it caused some sort of weird grounding issue that affected the TV's input circuit but I've not ever really come across it before and such a faulty cable might affect TV's differently.  I personally bought a cheap Chinese 10m HDMI cable for my projector and the picture quality is perfect so I don't worry myself about them.  I do have a hideous 10m VGA cable mind you that was bought cheaply and is terrible for ghosting.


From an electrical engineering standpoint, if the overall impedance across the cable remains constant (can degrade slowly over time, as well as with a lot of wear and tear), and the electrical impedance is lower than the overall allowable threshold, there should be no difference in signal across a cheap cable (tolerable impedance) and an expensive cable (supposedly ultra low impedance).

Picture quality on HDMI can only differ in 3 ways: Perfect quality, interference (represented as blocky interference or complete frame skips if the ECC is too slow to render the entire frame before frameswap), and no signal at all (usually there are too many errors per block that the signal is "uncorrectable"). Changes in colour or brightness is completely false.

Cheap cables can introduce more cross talk if they lack shielding which does degrade signal quality.  As I said though this isn't an issue until you increase the length of the cable normally.  Everything else I agree with.



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fordy said:
To all of those saying that Plasma has the better picture quality with colours etc, can anyone explain, if that is the case, why professional computer monitor manufacturers such as Eizo don't use the Plasma technology in their monitors?


Resolution and heat development would be the primary reasons I should think.



Because you wouldn't be seeing any computer monitors with good resolutions. Plus, with the way computers currently operate, odds are amazing you would have CRAZY burn in for something such as the windows taskbar.



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Baalzamon said:
Because you wouldn't be seeing any computer monitors with good resolutions. Plus, with the way computers currently operate, odds are amazing you would have CRAZY burn in for something such as the windows taskbar.

I know people say that burn in and image retention is almost unheard of in newer plasmas, but I think having the Windows Taskbar on the screen for 10 hours would do it.



Whatever you go with, OP (and at this point, we don't care what you get. This is about LED vs Plasma, now. This thread is bigger than you are.) be sure to get How to Train Your Dragon on Blu Ray and Blu Ray 3D. It's AMAZING! I watch it all of the time just because of how beautiful it looks.



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LED > LCD > Plasma

I have a Sony Bravia 46inches 3D LED, and it is SUPERB!!!



Plasma technology is way too old, are you people sure it is good? :S



Lol.

@Op

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Heavenly_King said:
Plasma technology is way too old, are you people sure it is good? :S

The fact that plasma tech is older means it's had even more time to be perfected.

Think about our CRT sets we grew up with.  They certainly didn't have the look they had in the '80s and '90s even back when color first became mainstream, much less at their inception.  They improved over time.  Plasma and LCD panels have come a long way in a short time in improving burn-in and contrast ratios and at achieving the natural, lag-free picture that we were used to with cathode ray tube sets.

Point being, I've seen some mighty fine LED TVs, particularly backlit with local dimming.  And they shine even more under the really bright lighting conditions (like at the store) due to the fact that LED/LCDs emit more light than plasmas and have less reflective screens.  But once you get them home and calibrate the settings is what matters... and then it's another story.  Like I said before, check out what the experts that know their stuff and have done extensive testing have to say (hometheater.com, Cnet, etc).  While they still praise the best of the LED TVs, they will almost unanimously state that plasmas still have better picture quality.  My eyes agree with the experts.  Plasmas have much sharper motion detail (without the artificial "video taped" look of LED/LCD), more natural contrast ratios (light to dark aspect with solid blacks), and better color saturation and color variance.  In short, plasmas have a more natural, organic look as opposed to the slightly artificial, digital look of LED/LCDs.  Furthermore, off-axis viewing of the screen (off center viewing) is also far, far superior with plasma.

Light emitting diode (LED)/LCD still relys on back or edge lighting to illuminate the screen, which, theoretically, slightly washes out the colors; a problem that plasma doesn't have.  Only OLED displays (about 11 inches max for consumer purchase right now), which emit the light themselves, will best a good plasma, IMO.



toadslayer72 said:
Lol.

@Op

Be sure to update us after you watch content from multiple sources and tell us what you think.


Well, i choose LCD LED but that was before i was convinced Plasma was better :)