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wfz on 15 April 2012

Hey guys,

I've really been wanting to play Pokemon Red and Silver recently, but my copies are in storage and I'm unable to get to them for the next few months. I really don't want to download a GB and GBC emulator on my PC just to play these games, so I'm trying to find out if there's a simple legal way for me to buy them. 

Are they on DSiWare or the 3DS virtual console, or *anywhere* to buy for the Wii/DS/3DS? If not, why the hell doesn't Nintendo release these old games virtually? They'd make a shitload of money...



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TadpoleJackson on 15 April 2012

If you own them you are legally allowed to make a backup! Go ahead and download 'em.



NintendoPie on 15 April 2012

The best way you could get them is what TJ said or if your GameStop still carries GameBoy games... which I doubt they still carry that old of GB games, I'm sure eBay or someone online has a copy of them, you just have to search!



wfz on 15 April 2012
TadpoleJackson said:
If you own them you are legally allowed to make a backup! Go ahead and download 'em.


I actually looked it up before making this thread, and (in the USA) you are not legally allowed to download backup copies even if you own the originals. =/

So there's no legal way to obtain these games other than buying them for their original systems? Nintendo hasn't put it up on their download service?

****ing idiots. =/



TadpoleJackson on 15 April 2012
wfz said:

I actually looked it up before making this thread, and (in the USA) you are not legally allowed to download backup copies even if you own the originals. =/

So there's no legal way to obtain these games other than buying them for their original systems? Nintendo hasn't put it up on their download service?

****ing idiots. =/


No, they haven't released them for anything else. 

Mind if I ask where you heard it's illegal? Everything I read says you can make a backup. 

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html said:

 

Can I backup my computer software?
Yes, under certain conditions as provided by section 117 of the Copyright Act. Although the precise term used under section 117 is “archival” copy, not “backup” copy, these terms today are used interchangeably. This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works.

Under section 117, you or someone you authorize may make a copy of an original computer program if:

  • the new copy is being made for archival (i.e., backup) purposes only;
  • you are the legal owner of the copy; and
  • any copy made for archival purposes is either destroyed, or transferred with the original copy, once the original copy is sold, given away, or otherwise transferred.

You are not permitted under section 117 to make a backup copy of other material on a computer's hard drive, such as other copyrighted works that have been downloaded (e.g., music, films).

It is also important to check the terms of sale or license agreement of the original copy of software in case any special conditions have been put in place by the copyright owner that might affect your ability or right under section 117 to make a backup copy. There is no other provision in the Copyright Act that specifically authorizes the making of backup copies of works other than computer programs even if those works are distributed as digital copies.

 

Gamefaqs said:

 

Is it legal to make a copy of a game I own?

Yes. U.S. Copyright laws allow you to make one backup copy of software you own. However, that backup copy is "tied" to your original. If you sell or give away your original software, you must destroy your backup copy or package it with the orignal when you sell or give it away. Likewise, you may not sell or give away your backup copy without the original.

Of course, with the advent of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), breaking the copyright protection on a piece of software you own has been made a crime in many cases, so if the software you are backing up implements copyright protection, it may also be illegal.

 

Though looking more into it these laws are really stupid. You can make 3 backups of a game but you can only play one at a time? xD So if you do make a copy of Red don't play the PC version and the gameboy version at the same time.You might get busted :P



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PikaPikachu on 15 April 2012

I really wish nintendo would release all the pokemon games from red and blue to fire red and leafgreen, they would make millions..... why arn't they doing it



_crazy_man_ on 15 April 2012

If Nintendo released the old classics via eshop.......

+500,000 purchases each, DO IT NINTENDO!

Anywho, I'd be suprised you could even get them to work, by now alot of GB games memory battery is dead or dying.

I can play my Silver but it can't save it's data, of all my GB games only Metroid II still works.

If you haven't already, I HIGHLY suggest get Heart Gold/Soul Silver.  The orginal remakes weren't enough for me to warrant a purchase but SS made me fall in love with the series again.



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Mr Khan on 16 April 2012

There's so much legal FUD surrounding copyright law still. In the runup to SOPA and PIPA i remember being told that me watching streaming anime was illegal, when i'm fairly positive it isn't. The fun with the backup copies rule vs the digital millennium copyright act rule is that other people have done the circumvention for you, so you simply take a copy made and play it, and are within your full legal (and certainly moral) right to do so.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

IIIIITHE1IIIII on 16 April 2012

Nintendo won't re-release those games since they want to give the current versions some extra attention.

...or at least I think so.


SecondWar on 16 April 2012
wfz said:

Hey guys,

I've really been wanting to play Pokemon Red and Silver recently, but my copies are in storage and I'm unable to get to them for the next few months. I really don't want to download a GB and GBC emulator on my PC just to play these games, so I'm trying to find out if there's a simple legal way for me to buy them. 

Are they on DSiWare or the 3DS virtual console, or *anywhere* to buy for the Wii/DS/3DS? If not, why the hell doesn't Nintendo release these old games virtually? They'd make a shitload of money...

The closest thing would be HearthGold and SoulSilver, the remakes that were relesed a few years back for the DS. The have a few small changes from the originals but at the time I was playing it, it felt like the most refined Pokemon game ever made.