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Deoz said:
Chark said:
I came up with an interesting concept that involved an exclusive Call of Duty game releasing during the holidays that would be free during the month of December for CoD Elite subscribers. Essentially low cost via digital distribution, huge PR stunt, bolster Elite membership numbers, and firmly stock Vita with CoD fan base to ensure profitable leg sales from word of mouth/popularity of the game as well as massive potential for a future game most likely one year later during the holidays. Obvious benefits for Activision, obvious benefits for PlayStation. The CoD fan base is huge and the incentive for a free game fully supported by Activision would draw plenty of people to buy a Vita. Having this as an E3 announcement will keep sales up all through to the rest of the year. Mix that with a holiday bundle and good luck getting a Vita in December.

That's a very optimist scenario, but it's activision, they will focus more in the homeconsoles version than handheld, it's safer and ensure more profit. I see the next CoD on vita togheter with consoles, but nothing astounding from PR outside " For the frist time CoD on the palm of your hands with 2 sticks". I dont think it will be enough to move their fans to the mobile market. Would be a million seller for sure, but it wont boost hardware abruptly. They need a LOT more software outside of niche games tough, i agree on that.

I consider the price cut their most viable option in holidays if ther's no big hits for holiday seasons announced at e3 or tgs.


Its a unique situation, that's for sure. I'm an aspiring PR guy so when I see opportunity like this I get excited. Elite is the real catalyst for this, it would offset the costs and Sony would be willing to cover Activision for quite a bit since it would encourage sales. Additional subscribers to Elite is pure profit for Activision, more subscribers don't equate to higher costs in their service, so its golden. Activision might concentrate on home consoles now but the opportunity to gather the handheld market, why wouldn't they. It would be great businesss for them to pull it off.

A price cut is the easy way out...and the most expensive.



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Pokemonbrawlvg said:
It'll be lucky to reach 3 million in June. April is going to be the worst month for it, nothing worth noticing this month. May has Mortal Kombat and Resistance in America and Europe, but as far as Japan goes it'll struggle there until mid-June.

Overall, sales will be slow reaching to 3 million as it's still edging towards 2 million right now. Reason I say this because it sold 73k this week and is at 1,836,206. Nothing for the next few weeks are going to increase it at all and will continue to fall or stable at 60k with luck. For it to sell 2 million this month, it has to sell 164k in the next three or four weeks worldwide.

Back to my 3 million, there are note worthy releases in Japan, but it won't help in the long run. It'll increase sales, but only for the month. America sees a somewhat similar fate with Gravity Rush(don't know if LittleBigPlanet or any other title will release in June as well).

According to this prediction chart it won't hit 3 million to August or September. I'm hoping the upcoming weeks will be more positive than my data, but its hard to justify without knowing more about upcoming software releases. Japan opting for Vitas instead of PSPs will help but when PSP software keeps releasing to top the charts I'm not sure when that will happen.

Anyone know the anticipated PSP software releases and when they will die off/not be so frequent?



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Chark said:
Deoz said:
Chark said:
I came up with an interesting concept that involved an exclusive Call of Duty game releasing during the holidays that would be free during the month of December for CoD Elite subscribers. Essentially low cost via digital distribution, huge PR stunt, bolster Elite membership numbers, and firmly stock Vita with CoD fan base to ensure profitable leg sales from word of mouth/popularity of the game as well as massive potential for a future game most likely one year later during the holidays. Obvious benefits for Activision, obvious benefits for PlayStation. The CoD fan base is huge and the incentive for a free game fully supported by Activision would draw plenty of people to buy a Vita. Having this as an E3 announcement will keep sales up all through to the rest of the year. Mix that with a holiday bundle and good luck getting a Vita in December.

That's a very optimist scenario, but it's activision, they will focus more in the homeconsoles version than handheld, it's safer and ensure more profit. I see the next CoD on vita togheter with consoles, but nothing astounding from PR outside " For the frist time CoD on the palm of your hands with 2 sticks". I dont think it will be enough to move their fans to the mobile market. Would be a million seller for sure, but it wont boost hardware abruptly. They need a LOT more software outside of niche games tough, i agree on that.

I consider the price cut their most viable option in holidays if ther's no big hits for holiday seasons announced at e3 or tgs.


Its a unique situation, that's for sure. I'm an aspiring PR guy so when I see opportunity like this I get excited. Elite is the real catalyst for this, it would offset the costs and Sony would be willing to cover Activision for quite a bit since it would encourage sales. Additional subscribers to Elite is pure profit for Activision, more subscribers don't equate to higher costs in their service, so its golden. Activision might concentrate on home consoles now but the opportunity to gather the handheld market, why wouldn't they. It would be great businesss for them to pull it off.

A price cut is the easy way out...and the most expensive.

Because this scenario requires them to practically build all the vita userbase, it's not their style or focus.Activision doesnt really invest on the mobile market with the cod franchise, they throw a bone but never meat. They wont simply negate all their fans by changing to mobile market with a exclsuive, i see a multiplatform as the best chance, and they will push elite in all consoles equally, i do not see them just giving more attention to the handheld version when the userbase isnt that big. Would be a excellent scenario for the vita, i agree, but only if  it were an entirely different activision that was ready to take high risks on a small market.

And the psp will stop getting software when japan when devs and gamers stop being happy with the quality of graphics they offer, then they might moveto Vita. I say 2 yers max.



Deoz said:
Chark said:
Deoz said:
Chark said:
I came up with an interesting concept that involved an exclusive Call of Duty game releasing during the holidays that would be free during the month of December for CoD Elite subscribers. Essentially low cost via digital distribution, huge PR stunt, bolster Elite membership numbers, and firmly stock Vita with CoD fan base to ensure profitable leg sales from word of mouth/popularity of the game as well as massive potential for a future game most likely one year later during the holidays. Obvious benefits for Activision, obvious benefits for PlayStation. The CoD fan base is huge and the incentive for a free game fully supported by Activision would draw plenty of people to buy a Vita. Having this as an E3 announcement will keep sales up all through to the rest of the year. Mix that with a holiday bundle and good luck getting a Vita in December.

That's a very optimist scenario, but it's activision, they will focus more in the homeconsoles version than handheld, it's safer and ensure more profit. I see the next CoD on vita togheter with consoles, but nothing astounding from PR outside " For the frist time CoD on the palm of your hands with 2 sticks". I dont think it will be enough to move their fans to the mobile market. Would be a million seller for sure, but it wont boost hardware abruptly. They need a LOT more software outside of niche games tough, i agree on that.

I consider the price cut their most viable option in holidays if ther's no big hits for holiday seasons announced at e3 or tgs.


Its a unique situation, that's for sure. I'm an aspiring PR guy so when I see opportunity like this I get excited. Elite is the real catalyst for this, it would offset the costs and Sony would be willing to cover Activision for quite a bit since it would encourage sales. Additional subscribers to Elite is pure profit for Activision, more subscribers don't equate to higher costs in their service, so its golden. Activision might concentrate on home consoles now but the opportunity to gather the handheld market, why wouldn't they. It would be great businesss for them to pull it off.

A price cut is the easy way out...and the most expensive.

Because this scenario requires them to practically build all the vita userbase, it's not their style or focus.Activision doesnt really invest on the mobile market with the cod franchise, they throw a bone but never meat. They wont simply negate all their fans by changing to mobile market with a exclsuive, i see a multiplatform as the best chance, and they will push elite in all consoles equally, i do not see them just giving more attention to the handheld version when the userbase isnt that big. Would be a excellent scenario for the vita, i agree, but only if  it were an entirely different activision that was ready to take high risks on a small market.

And the psp will stop getting software when japan when devs and gamers stop being happy with the quality of graphics they offer, then they might moveto Vita. I say 2 yers max.


Activision already have plans to release a CoD on the Vita, no one knows tge release date yet. Vita has full controls and online multiplayer capabilities with comparable to home console graphics. It is not like the mobile market we saw in years past. Releasing a handheld game is not negating thier fans, it wouldn't stop them from releasing titles on home consoles. Vita development is affordable and if a company can team up with Sony the risks are dramatically reduced. This wouldnt be about selling to an existing market, but creating one favorable for them. It is an investment. It would be amazing if they did what I'm suggesting, though unprecedented and therefore unlikely. The alternative is to release thier title and pay millions to advertise it hoping it would succeed. A move like i outlined sounds much better. It's not like the game would be free forever, just a month, and in reality it's not free unless you happen to be both an Elite subsriber and a Vita owner already. Others would have to pay $250 + $20 for a Vita and 4gb card and/or $60 for a year of Elite (is there really no monthly plan available?) I guess in a year there would be some dlc available for it, so they could say something like "over a $90 value" or some crap like people always do.



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Chark said:
Deoz said:
Chark said:
Deoz said:
Chark said:
I came up with an interesting concept that involved an exclusive Call of Duty game releasing during the holidays that would be free during the month of December for CoD Elite subscribers. Essentially low cost via digital distribution, huge PR stunt, bolster Elite membership numbers, and firmly stock Vita with CoD fan base to ensure profitable leg sales from word of mouth/popularity of the game as well as massive potential for a future game most likely one year later during the holidays. Obvious benefits for Activision, obvious benefits for PlayStation. The CoD fan base is huge and the incentive for a free game fully supported by Activision would draw plenty of people to buy a Vita. Having this as an E3 announcement will keep sales up all through to the rest of the year. Mix that with a holiday bundle and good luck getting a Vita in December.

That's a very optimist scenario, but it's activision, they will focus more in the homeconsoles version than handheld, it's safer and ensure more profit. I see the next CoD on vita togheter with consoles, but nothing astounding from PR outside " For the frist time CoD on the palm of your hands with 2 sticks". I dont think it will be enough to move their fans to the mobile market. Would be a million seller for sure, but it wont boost hardware abruptly. They need a LOT more software outside of niche games tough, i agree on that.

I consider the price cut their most viable option in holidays if ther's no big hits for holiday seasons announced at e3 or tgs.


Its a unique situation, that's for sure. I'm an aspiring PR guy so when I see opportunity like this I get excited. Elite is the real catalyst for this, it would offset the costs and Sony would be willing to cover Activision for quite a bit since it would encourage sales. Additional subscribers to Elite is pure profit for Activision, more subscribers don't equate to higher costs in their service, so its golden. Activision might concentrate on home consoles now but the opportunity to gather the handheld market, why wouldn't they. It would be great businesss for them to pull it off.

A price cut is the easy way out...and the most expensive.

Because this scenario requires them to practically build all the vita userbase, it's not their style or focus.Activision doesnt really invest on the mobile market with the cod franchise, they throw a bone but never meat. They wont simply negate all their fans by changing to mobile market with a exclsuive, i see a multiplatform as the best chance, and they will push elite in all consoles equally, i do not see them just giving more attention to the handheld version when the userbase isnt that big. Would be a excellent scenario for the vita, i agree, but only if  it were an entirely different activision that was ready to take high risks on a small market.

And the psp will stop getting software when japan when devs and gamers stop being happy with the quality of graphics they offer, then they might moveto Vita. I say 2 yers max.


Activision already have plans to release a CoD on the Vita, no one knows tge release date yet. Vita has full controls and online multiplayer capabilities with comparable to home console graphics. It is not like the mobile market we saw in years past. Releasing a handheld game is not negating thier fans, it wouldn't stop them from releasing titles on home consoles. Vita development is affordable and if a company can team up with Sony the risks are dramatically reduced. This wouldnt be about selling to an existing market, but creating one favorable for them. It is an investment. It would be amazing if they did what I'm suggesting, though unprecedented and therefore unlikely. The alternative is to release thier title and pay millions to advertise it hoping it would succeed. A move like i outlined sounds much better. It's not like the game would be free forever, just a month, and in reality it's not free unless you happen to be both an Elite subsriber and a Vita owner already. Others would have to pay $250 + $20 for a Vita and 4gb card and/or $60 for a year of Elite (is there really no monthly plan available?) I guess in a year there would be some dlc available for it, so they could say something like "over a $90 value" or some crap like people always do.

The thing is that, they would need to create this market and siding with Sony in their actual state wouldnt help them that much, Activision wont bother in investing on that when they have enough on consoles. And i said if they released an exclusiv CoD, a mutiplatform is the most likely and most of the success of your scenario revolves around CoD:V being an exclusive. Also if its free for a month it would only  really help the vita existing userrbase, i think we are overstimating how much CoD fans are willing to spend for their little game. Needing to spend $60 on a game first and then spending other 60 on dlc/elite after some time is something, but needing to spend $250+elite (maybe + 20 if game needs a save card), just to play the game is pushing them.
Your scenario is nice, pretty good for vita, but as you pointed too it's unlikely andim just poitng that. If the franchise were from EA or Capcom i could see them trying to expand itno the mobile market, but activision usually goe's for the safer route and are good at it saddly.



Deoz said:

The thing is that, they would need to create this market and siding with Sony in their actual state wouldnt help them that much, Activision wont bother in investing on that when they have enough on consoles. And i said if they released an exclusiv CoD, a mutiplatform is the most likely and most of the success of your scenario revolves around CoD:V being an exclusive. Also if its free for a month it would only  really help the vita existing userrbase, i think we are overstimating how much CoD fans are willing to spend for their little game. Needing to spend $60 on a game first and then spending other 60 on dlc/elite after some time is something, but needing to spend $250+elite (maybe + 20 if game needs a save card), just to play the game is pushing them.
Your scenario is nice, pretty good for vita, but as you pointed too it's unlikely andim just poitng that. If the franchise were from EA or Capcom i could see them trying to expand itno the mobile market, but activision usually goe's for the safer route and are good at it saddly.


I thought Activision liked to bring their games to everything, and release a new addition to their series every year. I still think it would be safe since a team up and encouraging Elite would offset costs. 

There are some cool things they could do on the Vita that I would like to see in a CoD. When disarming a bomb, the camera zooms in to display the bomb and you have a code cracker that scrambles you numbers you have to input using the touchscreen on the number pad on the bomb. Make a mistake and BOOM. Or even show wires and you need to cut them in a certain order, idk. For mounted guns, stationary or on vehicles, would use the gyro to aim simulating actually holding a mounted gun. Cool stuff like that.

The CoD fanbase is so large, there has to be a decent amount of them that are interested in obtaining a handheld, I just hope companies can start attracting them over with software. PR stunts like this is just extra effort. Would be crazy if it happens. I've been right about stuff before. I even guess that Nintendo would call their next console the Wii U.



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Chark said:
Deoz said:

The thing is that, they would need to create this market and siding with Sony in their actual state wouldnt help them that much, Activision wont bother in investing on that when they have enough on consoles. And i said if they released an exclusiv CoD, a mutiplatform is the most likely and most of the success of your scenario revolves around CoD:V being an exclusive. Also if its free for a month it would only  really help the vita existing userrbase, i think we are overstimating how much CoD fans are willing to spend for their little game. Needing to spend $60 on a game first and then spending other 60 on dlc/elite after some time is something, but needing to spend $250+elite (maybe + 20 if game needs a save card), just to play the game is pushing them.
Your scenario is nice, pretty good for vita, but as you pointed too it's unlikely andim just poitng that. If the franchise were from EA or Capcom i could see them trying to expand itno the mobile market, but activision usually goe's for the safer route and are good at it saddly.


I thought Activision liked to bring their games to everything, and release a new addition to their series every year. I still think it would be safe since a team up and encouraging Elite would offset costs. 

There are some cool things they could do on the Vita that I would like to see in a CoD. When disarming a bomb, the camera zooms in to display the bomb and you have a code cracker that scrambles you numbers you have to input using the touchscreen on the number pad on the bomb. Make a mistake and BOOM. Or even show wires and you need to cut them in a certain order, idk. For mounted guns, stationary or on vehicles, would use the gyro to aim simulating actually holding a mounted gun. Cool stuff like that.

The CoD fanbase is so large, there has to be a decent amount of them that are interested in obtaining a handheld, I just hope companies can start attracting them over with software. PR stunts like this is just extra effort. Would be crazy if it happens. I've been right about stuff before. I even guess that Nintendo would call their next console the Wii U.

Yeah,  but not with the same standard of quality.That's why i doubt they will  put so much effort on an exclusive CoD for Vita.



@Deoz That's one of the major concern of the new title. Working on two Call of Duty games is a lot of work(Black Ops 2 for the consoles). We don't know what this game might be. Most likely it'll be a portable version of Black Ops 2 since it's easier for the developers to make. If it's a brand new game(not likely because Act. never made two Call of Duty titles at once and why create a brand new experince on a new system that hasn't sold highly yet?) they may have a another dev work separately on it.



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Pokemonbrawlvg said:
@Deoz That's one of the major concern of the new title. Working on two Call of Duty games is a lot of work(Black Ops 2 for the consoles). We don't know what this game might be. Most likely it'll be a portable version of Black Ops 2 since it's easier for the developers to make. If it's a brand new game(not likely because Act. never made two Call of Duty titles at once and why create a brand new experince on a new system that hasn't sold highly yet?) they may have a another dev work separately on it.


Another dev is most likely. But I think it would be smart to release something more unique than a multiplat, won't sell that many when people opt to buy the console version, unless they are doing the buy our game get the Vita version free like some other companies have.



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