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SaviorX said:
Rath said:
Lady Gaga is the biggest win of style over substance in a long time. They created such a mass of marketing around her look, her name and her actions that people failed to realise that her songs were just pretty ordinary pop.

At least she's a hell of a lot better than Nikki Minaj though, that chick makes my ears bleed I swear.

Her and ol' Biebermiester are complete creations. Its like the labels came up with a prototypical popstar and out spawned Bieber/Gaga

 

There are literally teams of people out there writing, recording, mastering, mixing every word of every lyrics he's ever said. I'm not hating because hes a young male singer...I'm just embarrassed by the obvious.

Couldn't have said it better.



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tonymarraffa said:
Sorry people their is no female in music that has more hit songs, videos,higher grossing tours, or world records than Madonna. All others may be your personal opinions but just look at the facts. Guinness World Records ...

1.Top-Selling Female Recording Artist (2011)- 300 million records worldwide
2.The Female Artist with The Most #1 singles in the UK- 9th Number Ones
3.The Artist with The Most #1 Dvd's in the US- (Celebration is her last DVD topped the Chart)
4.The Highest Grossing Tour for a Solo Artist of All Time ($408 million) fof 2008's Sticky and Sweet Tour
5.The Most Costume Changes in a film Evita (more than 300)
6.The World's Most Successful Female Musician (2007)
7. Highest Paid Female Singer (2008)

◦According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Madonna is the most successful female recording artist of all time.
◦According to Warner Bros. Records, Madonna has sold over 250 million records (75 million singles and 175 million albums), more than any other female recording artist.
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◦Madonna has 6 No. 2 singles on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles Chart, the most for a female artist, tying her with Elvis Presley for the record.
◦Madonna has the most Top 5 singles by a female artist on Billboard's Hot 100 Chart (27).
◦Madonna has the most Top 10 singles by a female artist on Billboard's Hot 100 Chart (35).
◦Madonna has the most Top 20 singles by a female artist on Billboard's Hot 100 Chart (42).
◦Madonna has the most Top 30 singles by a female artist on Billboard's Hot 100 Chart (44).
◦Madonna has the most Top 40 singles by a female artist on Billboard's Hot 100 Chart (47).
◦Madonna has the most certified (RIAA) singles by a female artist with 24 Gold, Platinum, or Multi-Platinum singles.
◦Madonna has sold an estimated 60 million singles in the US, the most by a female artist.
◦Madonna has 7 No. 1 albums on Billboard's Top 200 Albums Chart, behind only Barbara Streisand's 8 among female artists.
◦Madonna has 5 No. 2 albums on Billboard's Top 200 Albums Chart, behind only The Beatles' 6 and Frank Sinatra's 7.
◦Madonna has 17 Top 10 albums on Billboard's Top 200 Albums Chart, behind only Barbara Streisand's 26 among female artists.
◦Every album Madonna has released has gone Top 10 in the US except for her two remix albums, You Can Dance and Remixed & Revisited.
◦In the US, Madonna, Britney Spears, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Shania Twain, and the Dixie Chicks are the only female artists with multiple Diamond (shipped over 10 million copies) albums.
◦Madonna has sold a certified (RIAA) 74 million albums in the us alone the most of any femal artist ◦Madonna is the most successful dance artist in music history; she has 41 #1 singles on Billboard's Hot Dance/Club Play Singles Chart, more than twice the number of her nearest rival Janet Jackson. Madonna also has 25 #1 singles on Billboard's Hot Dance Single Sales Chart, more than three times the number of her nearest rivals Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Prince, and Notorious B.I.G.
-Madonna is also the female artist w/ most certified singles (gold and platinum) in the US surpassing The Beatles' record.
-Madonna has had 22 number 1 hits on the Canadian Hot 100.
◦Madonna has 10 No. 1 singles on the UK singles chart, more than any other female artist.
◦Madonna has 12 No. 2 singles on the UK singles chart, more than any other artist ever.
◦Madonna has 42 Top 5 singles on the UK singles chart, more than any other artist ever.
◦Madonna has 55 Top 10 singles on the UK singles chart, more than any other female artist.
◦Madonna has 60 Top 20 singles on the UK singles chart, more than any other female artist.
◦Madonna has 60 Top 40 singles on the UK singles chart, more than any other female artist.
◦Madonna has spent a total of 21 weeks at #1 on the UK singles chart, more than any other female artist.
◦From "Like A Virgin" in 1984 to "Secret" in 1994, Madonna had an all-time record 34 consecutive Top 10 hits on the UK singles chart.
◦Every single Madonna has released in the UK has gone Top 20, and all but five of them have gone Top 10.
◦Madonna has sold over 14.6 million singles in the UK, more than any other female artist.
◦Madonna has 8 No. 1 albums on the UK albums chart, more than any other female artist.
◦Madonna has 4 No. 2 albums on the UK albums chart, more than any other female artist.
◦Madonna has 15 Top 5 albums on the UK albums chart, more than any other female artist.
◦Madonna has 16 Top 10 albums on the UK albums chart, more than any other female artist.
◦From the Evita Soundtrack in 1996 to Music in 2000 Madonna had 3 consecutive #1 albums on the UK albums chart, an all time record for a female artist.
◦Every album Madonna has released has gone Top 10 in the UK and her self-titled debut is the only one to miss the Top 5. (Her 2003 EP Remixed & Revisited was not allowed to appear on the UK album chart as it was too short to qualify as an album.)
◦In the UK, Madonna's The Immaculate Collection is the highest selling album ever by a female artist at 12x Platinum for shipments of over 3.6 million copies. Overall it is the 7th highest selling album ever in the UK.
◦In the UK, Madonna and Kylie Minogue are the only artists ever to have a No. 1 album and No. 1 single in three different decades.
◦Madonna's The Immaculate Collection is the highest selling greatest hits album ever by a female artist with estimated worldwide sales of over 31 million copies.
◦Madonna has had more music videos played more often on MTV than any other artist.
◦Madonna was voted by MTV viewers as the greatest music video icon ever on the network's 25 Greatest Video Stars. (2012)
◦Madonna was named the sexiest recording artist ever on VH1's 100 Sexiest Artists.(2012)
◦In 1986, Madonna received the Video Vanguard Award at the MTV Video Music Awards honoring her for outstanding achievements in the realm of music video.
◦Madonna is the most successful act in the history of MTV's Video Music Awards with an all time record 67 VMA nominations and 20 VMA wins.
◦In 2004 Madonna became one of the five founding members of the UK Music Hall of Fame, joining Elvis Presley, The Beatles, Bob Marley, and U2 as automatic inductees.
◦Maverick Records is the most successful "vanity label" in music history. While under Madonna's control it generated well over $1 billion for Warner Bros. Records, more money than any other recording artist's record label.
◦Madonna is the richest female singer in the world with an estimated net worth of over $950 million.

◦2003's "Me Against The Music" (with Britney Spears) was her 46th top 40 hit on The Billboard Hot 100. She has the most top 40 hits of any female artist, and is tied with Stevie Wonder for fourth place among all artists with the most top 40 singles on The Billboard Hot 100.

◦Madonna has placed a single in the top 40 of The Billboard Hot 100 every year since 1983 (save for 1988, when she had no releases whatsoever).
◦According to the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), Madonna has 24 gold singles (500,000 units shipped) to her credit, the most for any female artist. She now ties The Beatles for second place behind Elvis Presley among artists with the most gold singles.
◦From Borderline in 1984 - Cherish in 1989 Madonna achieved 17 consecutive top 10 singles.
◦From Lucky Star in 1984 - Cherish in 1989 Madonna achieved 16 top 5 singles.
◦Madonna has never since had such a streak as impressive as this. Although from Keep It Together in 1990 - Deeper And Deeper in 1993 Madonna achieved 8 consecutive top 10 singles.
◦From Holiday in 1983 -Take A Bow in 1995 Madonna achieved 32 consecutive top 40 singles.
◦Madonna's second longest top 40 streak: Madonna also achieved 7 consecutive top 40 singles from Beautiful Stranger in 1999 - American Life in 2003. From Borderline in 1984 -Cherish in 1989 Madonna achieved 17 consecutive top 10 singles.
◦From Lucky Star in 1984 - Cherish in 1989 Madonna achieved 16 top 5 singles.
◦Madonna has never since had such a streak as impressive as this. Although from Keep It Together in 1990- Deeper And Deeper in 1993 Madonna achieved 8 consecutive top 10 singles.
◦From Holiday in 1983 -Take A Bow in 1995 Madonna achieved 32 consecutive top 40 singles.
◦Madonna's second longest top 40 streak: Madonna also achieved 7 consecutive top 40 singles from Beautiful Stranger in 1999 - American Life in 2003.


Madonna Ends Triumphant Week With Another World Record
Madonna has ended her week on a high after it was revealed that pre-orders of her new album have gone to number one in fifty countries, making it the largest one day pre-order in iTunes history. Her record label Interscope announced the news to the millions of delighted fans, with Madonna herself posting on her Twitter page: 'Thanks for all the L-U-V!! from around the world #Madonna'

Madonna Wraps Record-Breaking Sticky & Sweet Tour in Israel

By Caryn Ganz
September 3, 2009 10:03 AM ET
After 85 shows performing songs from Hard Candy and her 26-year catalog, Madonna has wrapped her Sticky & Sweet tour with a pair of gigs at Israel's Yehoshua Gardens. All told, the numbers for the singer's year-long global trek are jaw-dropping: $408 million grossed, more than 3.5 million fans attended and 32 countries hit, according to Live Nation, the tour's producer. The figures make Sticky & Sweet the highest-grossing tour every by a solo act, and the second-highest grossing trek of all time. Madonna even broke her own record: 2006's Confessions tour held the honor of most successful solo tour with a $194 million gross. Take a bow, indeed.






Madonna's fans have had plenty to be happy about this week - starting with news of her 2012 world tour, which looks set to break records again (her last tour, The Sticky and Sweet Tour, travelled to 170 cities worldwide in 2008 and grossed over 400 million). Then came the news of the Super Bowl halftime show viewing figures, which, again, broke all records, with 117.8 million viewers - and 47.1 million households - tuning in to watch Madonna and her guests Nicki Minaj; Cee-Lo Green and M.I.A. During the Super Bowl, too, the megastar's new single, Give Me All Your Luvin' was the most searched phrase on Google and Twitter.



So, are you trying to say that Madonna was slightly suggestful, cause I'm not getting this post?  Lol...haha...just kidding.  Madonna is definitely the Queen if the not the Goddess of Pop music.  Thanks for finding this imformation.  Unfortunately, it won't be enough for some people to bring them to see the light.  I'm more of a Celine fan than Madonna fan but I can't deny the suggest Madonna has had.



Thanx, I just bet the ones calling her a washed up hag are under 30. I'd like to see Lady Gaga when she's 53. I bet she won't still be releasing number 1 albums, hit songs, or breaking touring records. Also Lady Gaga herself is a huge fan of Madonnas and has revered to her as the queen multiple times. Also i'm a fan of Celine, imho she has the best signing voice off all time!



In this thread.

Sales=Quality. If this was a videogame discussion you would get attacked for saying that :P

On topic;
King: Michael Jackson
Queen: Lady Gaga(for lack of a better one)



I wish people wouldn't compare sales now to 10 or ever 5 years ago. It's a completely different landscape. You can buy album tracks individually now, so people just pick and choose what they want and save money. And then there's piracy. There wouldn't even be an album market right now if it wasn't for Adele.



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Good i use sales from this week-
VCNN) — Madonna scored her eighth number-one on the Billboard Top 200 album chart with her latest release, “MDNA.”

According to Nielsen SoundScan, the 53-year-old pop icon sold 359,000 units, giving her the biggest album debut of 2012.

This also marks the Material Girl’s fifth consecutive studio album to reach the top of the charts.

NEW YORK, April 3, 2012 /PRNewswire/ — Madonna has returned for the 8th time to the top of the Billboard’s Pop Charts with MDNA selling 359,000 albums according to Neilsen Soundscan and is the biggest selling first week debut this year. MDNA is The Material Girl’s fifth No. 1 studio album in a row and her first album for Interscope Records.

On the Billboard Dance Club Play Charts, Madonna remains queen of the clubs with two songs from MDNA in the Top Ten including “Girls Gone Wild” which has gone to No. 4 and is the “greatest gainer” for the last three weeks. Her first dance hit from MDNA “Give Me All Your Luvin” after going to No. 1 remains in the Top Ten in the No. 8 spot.

The critical response to MDNA has been equally impressive:

“Madonna has made it through the wilderness to deliver one of the best albums of her career.” Daily News

“Her best album since “Ray of Light’” Chicago Tribune

“Still the Queen of Pop” The London Times

“Some of the finest musical moments we’ve heard from the pop legend in the last few years” MTV News

- “The woman is pop’s most durable alpha female” USA TODAY

Other facts:

-MDNA debuted No. 1 on iTunes Charts in 40 countries and had the biggest one day pre sale on iTunes by any artist in history.

-Madonna’s “Girls Gone Wild” video is her most viewed video on YouTube with 32 million views.

-Barbra Streisand is the only other female to have more No. 1 albums (9) according to Billboard’s Keith Caufield.

-In the UK, the MDNA album puts Madonna in a league of her own. MDNA’s No. 1 spot gives Madonna the most No. 1 albums of all time in the UK (12) by a solo artist – surpassing Elvis Presley. The Beatles are the only artists who have had 15 No. 1 albums in the UK.

-In Japan, MDNA is her 22nd Top Ten album passing The Beatles record of l9 Top Ten albums in Japan. MDNA entered their Oricon international charts at No. 1 and the combined Oricon Charts at #4.



Are those sales recent enough for you?



King: Michael Jackson
Queen: Madonna



SaviorX said:
Rath said:
Lady Gaga is the biggest win of style over substance in a long time. They created such a mass of marketing around her look, her name and her actions that people failed to realise that her songs were just pretty ordinary pop.

At least she's a hell of a lot better than Nikki Minaj though, that chick makes my ears bleed I swear.

Her and ol' Biebermiester are complete creations. Its like the labels came up with a prototypical popstar and out spawned Bieber/Gaga

 

There are literally teams of people out there writing, recording, mastering, mixing every word of every lyrics he's ever said. I'm not hating because hes a young male singer...I'm just embarrassed by the obvious.

while im trying not to feed you..

a bit of searching on Gagas past to when she was around 19 (years before being signed) she was down in Lower east side New york calling herself Lady Gaga performing the same way she does now. So explain how she is created? if she came to the label the same as she is now.. how did they create her? 

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=lady+gaga+lady+starlight+live&hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&biw=1440&bih=741&tbm=isch&tbnid=iunbIWeGEkclCM:&imgrefurl=http://www.moviespad.com/pictures/25849/lady-gaga-gaga-used-to-have-a-partner-called-lady-starlight-no-word-on-what-happened-to-her/&docid=SrNLI5SiKs6-_M&imgurl=http://www.moviespad.com/photos/lady-gaga-gaga-used-to-have-a-partner-called-lady-starlight-no-word-on-what-happened-to-her-6212e.jpg&w=600&h=410&ei=wkKBT6qLIsrX8QOGl4SdBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1144&vpy=316&dur=559&hovh=185&hovw=272&tx=208&ty=116&sig=113541495181552212810&page=1&tbnh=120&tbnw=161&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:23,s:0,i:113

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=lady+gaga+lady+starlight+live&hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&biw=1440&bih=741&tbm=isch&tbnid=o2PZ82P0pYG95M:&imgrefurl=http://www.fanpop.com/spots/lady-gaga/images/14433182/title/old-school-gaga-with-lady-starlight&docid=Kld32tryPxG5bM&imgurl=http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14400000/Old-School-GaGa-With-Lady-Starlight-lady-gaga-14433182-501-750.jpg&w=501&h=750&ei=wkKBT6qLIsrX8QOGl4SdBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=302&vpy=12&dur=471&hovh=177&hovw=125&tx=79&ty=153&sig=113541495181552212810&page=1&tbnh=127&tbnw=95&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:67

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=lady+gaga+lady+starlight+live&start=82&hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&biw=1440&bih=741&tbm=isch&tbnid=cmxBqRkbOiMR_M:&imgrefurl=http://www.myspace.com/ladystarlightnyc/photos/61245943&docid=ITBlRfeu7wFd2M&imgurl=http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/3/ff120aacd3604a52b9eb72b2b10bc016/l.jpg&w=600&h=450&ei=ekOBT-6nJYer8APrmsikBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=203&vpy=308&dur=792&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=180&ty=127&sig=113541495181552212810&page=4&tbnh=166&tbnw=225&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:82,i:31

Its so funny people run around calling Gaga manafactured when she clearly isnt.. thats why she got so famous in the first place because she wasnt a manafactured pop star. Katy Perry, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Justin Bieber are all creations from a record label, there wernt like this before they got famous. Infact the first 3 are proven to be creations by there label because as soo as Lady Gaga got so massive the labels dressed them differently! 



tonymarraffa said:
Are those sales recent enough for you?


Lady Gaga Born This Way album sales first week Globally where over 2,000,000. USA first week was 1,000,000

that was May 2011. Far supassing Maddonas USA/global sales of her new album first week

Are those Sales Recent Enough for you?

 

 

although once again, the material Gaga relases is far better then madonna so it wouldnt matter if gaga she sold 11 copys WW, it would still be better then Madonna recent crap.