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Player1x3 on 06 April 2012
Pemalite said:
Player1x3 said:


It gives us a pretty good idea on how will the game look and not to mention its captured directly from a ps3 system. It will look better than uncharted 3 which is already an astonishing achievement


Firstly... Add some aliasing so everything has jagged edges, add allot more blurry textures due to the lack of texture filtering and reduce the lighting and shadows due to the fact it's to demanding to do on-the-fly, have the game render at 720P or below then upscaled to 1080P and it may resemble the final product.
That's a Pre-rendered scene of the game.
Basically they take a screenshot of the game in action and then render it in vastly higher quality, it will not remotly look that clear and clean, on a PC? Sure it would look like that, but never on a console and you would be deluded to think otherwise.

Fact of the matter is, the consoles are old and the graphics chips in the Xbox and PS3 were half-decent at release but we have had 6-7 graphics card generational leaps since then, the processors aren't anything to write home about, they're simple in-order cores which aren't going to dramatically increase image quality because they contain no rasterization hardware, they can do post-processing stuff like Morphological Anti-Aliasing, but that's still not on the same level as real Anti-Aliasing, the Cell is no exception.


I think we have seen all the large graphical leaps this generation on the consoles, basically I think developers may go the path of reducing level sizes to increase image quality, but there won't be any large leaps from this point on untill next generation, as they say you cant get blood out of a stone.

I say the game looks very promising, its being made by developers who made 2 of the best looking games this gen and i still think its gonna look better than uncharted 3, which is like i said before, already an astonishing achievement.

And the guys from Game Informer played the demo said it looks insanely good (google game informer the last of us) and here are some more in game screenshots



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Aldro on 06 April 2012
Pemalite said:
Player1x3 said:


It gives us a pretty good idea on how will the game look and not to mention its captured directly from a ps3 system. It will look better than uncharted 3 which is already an astonishing achievement


Firstly... Add some aliasing so everything has jagged edges, add allot more blurry textures due to the lack of texture filtering and reduce the lighting and shadows due to the fact it's to demanding to do on-the-fly, have the game render at 720P or below then upscaled to 1080P and it may resemble the final product.
That's a Pre-rendered scene of the game.
Basically they take a screenshot of the game in action and then render it in vastly higher quality, it will not remotly look that clear and clean, on a PC? Sure it would look like that, but never on a console and you would be deluded to think otherwise.

Fact of the matter is, the consoles are old and the graphics chips in the Xbox and PS3 were half-decent at release but we have had 6-7 graphics card generational leaps since then, the processors aren't anything to write home about, they're simple in-order cores which aren't going to dramatically increase image quality because they contain no rasterization hardware, they can do post-processing stuff like Morphological Anti-Aliasing, but that's still not on the same level as real Anti-Aliasing, the Cell is no exception.


I think we have seen all the large graphical leaps this generation on the consoles, basically I think developers may go the path of reducing level sizes to increase image quality, but there won't be any large leaps from this point on untill next generation, as they say you cant get blood out of a stone.

Honestly, I have a hard time telling the difference at certain parts:
(Just an example below)

 

 (ingame capture)




pre-renderd cutscene:
And like Player1x3 said: ND are very likely to improve even further than Uncharted 3 which is a crazy achievement in of itself. I'm anxious to see how they will wow me after shit like:









Scoobes on 06 April 2012

The PS3 has pretty much peaked. Uncharted 2 & GoWIII were absolutely stunning. Since then we've seen gradual improvements but we're at a stage where developers have to make major concessions in other areas to make improvements in graphical fidelity.




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HideoK on 06 April 2012
Scoobes said:
The PS3 has pretty much peaked. Uncharted 2 & GoWIII were absolutely stunning. Since then we've seen gradual improvements but we're at a stage where developers have to make major concessions in other areas to make improvements in graphical fidelity.

That's exactly what I was thinking. God of War III was at the top for me followed closely by Uncharted 2. Little improvement visually since then.
Heavy Rain was up there too.



crissindahouse on 06 April 2012

@aldro

hmm for some things you have to see videos, picture can never show some "important" things you only realize in a video.

but i read in a german magazine as well that they think the last of us will look even better than uncharted 3, they played a little bit of it.

as example they say ellie can bite in her own lipps and then she's bleeding there. don't think other games on consoles have those small but great graphically details if not fight night^^ this alone (cuts in the face and blood on the walls after a fight and so on) are an improvement to uncharted.



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tonymarraffa on 06 April 2012

I think the HD twins still have a bit more to show us. I think The Last of Us and Halo 4 will amaze alot of jaded gamers.



M.U.G.E.N on 06 April 2012

I'm waiting to see what GOW 4 looks like..SM did it with the ps2 at the end of last gen and I wouldn't be surprised to see something incredible yet again



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Aldro on 06 April 2012
crissindahouse said:

@aldro

hmm for some things you have to see videos, picture can never show some "important" things you only realize in a video.

but i read in a german magazine as well that they think the last of us will look even better than uncharted 3, they played a little bit of it.

as example they say ellie can bite in her own lipps and then she's bleeding there. don't think other games on consoles have those small but great graphically details if not fight night^^ this alone (cuts in the face and blood on the walls after a fight and so on) are an improvement to uncharted.

_______________
I remember playing UC1 for the first time.

WTF HIS CLOTHES GET WET! O_O xD
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Then UC2

WTF SNOW ON HIS CLOTHES AND FACE AND SHIET!!
AND YOU PLAY THE GAME AS SHIT MOVES! SET PIECES ARE AWSOM!!
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Then UC3

WTF CERTAIN PARTS GET WET DEPENDING ON WHAT PART GETS IN THE WATER THATS CRAZY!!!
WTF SAND IN HIS HAIR; WTF AT HIS FACE TOO AND CLOTHES AND SHIT!!!
WTF AIRPLANE HOLY SHIT IM PLAYING GOD LORD!!!
OH MY FUCKING GOD BOAT IS FLIPPED; SHIT IS FLIPPIN' ME OUT!!!
SHIET WHAT THE FUCK FIRE CHATEU JESUS CHRIST HES ALL DIRTY AND STUFF; THOSEFLAME; DATFIRE!!!
General thing that kept me surprised:
WTF IM STILL PLAYING? WICKED!!!


Some fail stuff:
Man that Jason Statham is cool. Oh this is the scene where he shoots Drake in the hand like I saw on the trailer ages back. WTF blood? SULLY TOO? WHAT THE FUCK. Ohh flashback? Oh man, they're pulling an Uncharted 2 in this game too?
...Cartagena, Colombia

MIND = BLOWN

This is so bad ass... Is that who I think it is?
.......HES GOT TEHH MUSTACHE AND ALL THAT SHIET

"Aaand they're gone" - Jason statham

What really took it for me though =

RUB AL KHALI?
.........
....
..OH SHIT ITS THE WALK OF MY LIFE! *pauses game. gets dressed in warm ass clothes, turns up the heat in the room*
*Sweating like a pig*
OKAY DRAKE, RIGHT WITH YA BRAH'

 

...I wrote this because I was bored. Live with it.

P.S.
I'd totally do your avatar <3

 



sperrico87 on 06 April 2012

I think Uncharted 3 and The Last of Us are the peak of this generation's capability.



 

Pemalite on 07 April 2012
Aldro said:

Honestly, I have a hard time telling the difference at certain parts:
(Just an example below)

 

 (ingame capture)




pre-renderd cutscene:
And like Player1x3 said: ND are very likely to improve even further than Uncharted 3 which is a crazy achievement in of itself. I'm anxious to see how they will wow me after shit like:

The resolutions on those pictures are tiny and only 720P. What would happen if you grabbed that image and stretched it across say... A 50" or larger 1080P panel? Suddenly, it's going to suddenly have allot of jagged edges, it already looks like molasses at my resolution of 3240x1920. (3x 1920x1080 panels in portrait, can do landscape at 5760x1080).

For example:
Origional:


Upscaled to 1080P then cut a chunk out for comparison:



Most of the pictures though that are floating around are from the devs themselves.
And here is an example of what they did.





Now, if you're happy with that kind of image quality and think it's the "best" then you are sorely missing out. (When compared to a good PC)

As another example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3P9Y-at_JI

If you look at the fences, the crates etc' in the opening sequence, there is a significant amount of aliasing, it looks horrible.
The shadows are no where near as defined as those in the pictures (They are blurry and have artifacts.)
Then if you look at the textures on some characters and objects and even parts of the ground it's low resolution and blurry.




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