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Jon-Erich said:
He says he wants just "one marriage law", yet all 50 sates already have their own marriage laws. I do know for a fact that incestuous marriages are legal in Alabama and I believe that I once heard that someone as young as 14 could get married in Hawaii with parental consent. Does he plan to look at the various laws regarding marriage in all 50 states and make one federal law that overrides all those other laws, or is he just going after gays?

Also, I am not by any means a registered Republican, but if Santorum were a REAL Republican, he would believe that the federal government should stay out of everyone's personal business. Unfortunately, those kind of Republicans disappeared over 30 years ago and then the Neo-Cons who's beliefs contradict one another and make no sense came along. There is of course Ron Paul who stands out amongst other Republicans, but he's considered too "radical" to be President.

He would propose a constitutional amendment that would clearly establish what is and isn't marriagable and so simply take the ability for individual states to establish marriage law away from them., though it's only wishful thinking on his end, since such an amendment would proverbially explode in the hangar. Even if we took the states' rights people out of the picture, the progressive lobby would murder the amendment quicker than quick, but with the states' rights trampling, it would never work either.

But one does wonder when there will be enough political consensus in this country to ever pass another constitutional amendment under the current system.



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osamanobama said:
so does murder, "rape", and cannabalism.

 


It's obnoxious you compare murder, rape and cannibalism (yes that's the only way to write that difficult word) with homosexuality. You're comparing those to something that takes place between 2 consenting adults.

That's the last thing I will say to you. I have pushed the imaginary ignore button besides your name.



So how many gays is he actually married to if he's pledging to unmarry them? I guess it's not polygamy if its same sex huh?



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the problem is that we're talking about gay marriage, birth control, and abortion while the country is about to collapse in debt and buried in pointless wars while trying to start new ones. We need to talk about the economy and wars, all the other stuff needs to go on the back burner because none of that matters if the government collapses.



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johnsobas said:
the problem is that we're talking about gay marriage, birth control, and abortion while the country is about to collapse in debt and buried in pointless wars while trying to start new ones. We need to talk about the economy and wars, all the other stuff needs to go on the back burner because none of that matters if the government collapses.

Social issues are easier to take clear stances on. Few enough people are willing to take hard-and-fast stances on matters of the economy or the national debt or wars, because while small government seems like a nice idea and i would theoretically enjoy watching the reactions to an American-style "shock therapy," one needs to be flexible when dealing with the economy and with foreign policy, and willing to take advantage of all your tools at your disposal. With social issues, it's very clean-cut and easy to say solid things that people understand.



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osamanobama said:
bouzane said:


Sorry but not believing that homosexuality is natural utterly moronic. It occurs frequently in nature and has been observed in a wide variety of species, hence calling homosexuality natural is a factual statement, not an opinion.

so does murder, "rape", and cannabalism.

Yeah 'cause that's totally the same thing. Let's see:

Murder: One person dies
Rape: One person is scared for life
Cannibalism: Requires a dead person

Homosexuality: Two persons love each other. How shocking!



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TruckOSaurus said:
osamanobama said:
bouzane said:


Sorry but not believing that homosexuality is natural utterly moronic. It occurs frequently in nature and has been observed in a wide variety of species, hence calling homosexuality natural is a factual statement, not an opinion.

so does murder, "rape", and cannabalism.

Yeah 'cause that's totally the same thing. Let's see:

Murder: One person dies
Rape: One person is scared for life
Cannibalism: Requires a dead person

Homosexuality: Two persons love each other. How shocking!

but its in nature... so its natural.

dont be a cannibalphobe.

"pedophilia" also happens in nature, so if anyone tells you its weird, or not normal, they are wrong!



osamanobama said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Yeah 'cause that's totally the same thing. Let's see:

Murder: One person dies
Rape: One person is scared for life
Cannibalism: Requires a dead person

Homosexuality: Two persons love each other. How shocking!

but its in nature... so its natural.

dont be a cannibalphobe.

"pedophilia" also happens in nature, so if anyone tells you its weird, or not normal, they are wrong!

I don't really care for the "it happens in nature" argument myself. Humans could be the only species engaging in homosexual acts that it wouldn't make it wrong. I know from personal experience that I didn't "artificially" choose to be attracted to men.

I do take offense to you using rapists and murderers in a discution about homosexuality as a backhanded way of associating gays with people who aren't socially functionnal. The LGBT community bring as much to society as straight people do and comparing them to killers is rather insulting.



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osamanobama said:

but its in nature... so its natural.

dont be a cannibalphobe.

"pedophilia" also happens in nature, so if anyone tells you its weird, or not normal, they are wrong!

You don't seem to recognize the difference between the situation when two persons love each other and when a grown up abuse a child?

Rape, Murder and Pedophilia harm a person.

When a man or woman is homosexual it doesn't harm any other person. When a man or woman is black that doesn't harm any other person. When a man or woman has brown hair it doesn't harm any other person.

Fact is: People like Santorum always find a minority they can punish, because they need someone to punish to feel better. Perhaps it would be a better world if man like Santorum would find other things that make them happy.



z101 said:
osamanobama said:

but its in nature... so its natural.

dont be a cannibalphobe.

"pedophilia" also happens in nature, so if anyone tells you its weird, or not normal, they are wrong!

You don't seem to recognize the difference between the situation when two persons love each other and when a grown up abuse a child?

Rape, Murder and Pedophilia harm a person.

When a man or woman is homosexual it doesn't harm any other person. When a man or woman is black that doesn't harm any other person. When a man or woman has brown hair it doesn't harm any other person.

who said anything about abuse, pedophilia can easily happen between 2 consenting people.

im strictly talking about things a natural and normal because they happen in nature. many people seem to be getting mixed up here