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What old franchise should Nintendo revive first on the Wii U?

Star Fox 220 47.31%
 
F-Zero 110 23.66%
 
Wave Race 29 6.24%
 
Top-Down Zelda 55 11.83%
 
Show me the results. 28 6.02%
 
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Demensha on 31 January 2013

The big difference for me is not graphics per say(while very important, Im playing DS2 for the 3rd time again cause its fun) but rather how I can use the system and with how many people. For example BF3 is an amazing game on the pc, he'll if the game was in full 1080p on Xbox and ps3 I would even say its close to pc level visuals,but that's not what it's about. If next gen systems are doing 64-128 person battles and wii u can only run 24-32 players max that may be a be factor in sales( talking about shooters only).

What I find funny is why is Nintendo critized for spending 100$+ per console for the tablet instead of better hardware, yet somehow nextbox will have kinect 2.0 and ps4 may have move built in or a tablet controller and somehow their costs aren't increased. Why not ? How can the other 2 make a console with extra controllers/peripherals and extreme advanced hardware and it only cost 350-400$? I think people are either dreaming about the next gen specs or the prices will be closer to 500$ my 2 cents.



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DanneSandin on 31 January 2013
Demensha said:
The big difference for me is not graphics per say(while very important, Im playing DS2 for the 3rd time again cause its fun) but rather how I can use the system and with how many people. For example BF3 is an amazing game on the pc, he'll if the game was in full 1080p on Xbox and ps3 I would even say its close to pc level visuals,but that's not what it's about. If next gen systems are doing 64-128 person battles and wii u can only run 24-32 players max that may be a be factor in sales( talking about shooters only).

What I find funny is why is Nintendo critized for spending 100$+ per console for the tablet instead of better hardware, yet somehow nextbox will have kinect 2.0 and ps4 may have move built in or a tablet controller and somehow their costs aren't increased. Why not ? How can the other 2 make a console with extra controllers/peripherals and extreme advanced hardware and it only cost 350-400$? I think people are either dreaming about the next gen specs or the prices will be closer to 500$ my 2 cents.

I think it's mainly because they're much more willing to take a hit for each sold console... Sony lost $300/PS3 in the beginning... that's HUUUUGE!

And I agree; I don't care too much about graphics, just as long as the ports don't llok or run ugly/bad on Wii U



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DélioPT on 31 January 2013
DanneSandin said:
DélioPT said:


Last generation was unique. You won`t it repeating itself this.
There really isn`t a clear winner to be anticipated, like N64 was after Snes or PS2 after PS1 and PS3 after PS2.
It may happen that 3rd parties will be more inclined to support MS and Sony but that may change if Wii U does well in next financial year. If you look at software sales released, you will see that Wii U is selling better than VGC is saying - probably because of digital sales. Actually, the list of best sellers here is somewhat different from the one on eshop (excluding eshop only titles).
Wii U is selling a good number of software despite most of the big titles being ports or even late ports.

There`s more excitement for X than probably for any other game announced.

But there`s more!
Economics. If production costs rise 20% like EPic anticipates, do you think that big projects that fail to meet expectations won´t have a big effect? Look at Epic Mickey: a sequel that failed = end of studio.
The market in the last generation had an artificial growth on both sides. Consoles were so different that it made sense to buy more than one. Something that didn`t happen in previous generations where the winner console won hands down.
It remains, in my view, to be seen, specially on MS and Sony`s side how big their market really is.
If the market grew artificially, it will shrink. And if that happens guess who`s not going to like it? 3rd parties!

EA says it`s not. Team Ninja says it is. :)

Yes, last generation was very different, and the anomaly was the Wii. If we look at all the winners from previous gens we clearly sees that whatever system has the best 3rd party support wins. NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2. And if the market suffered from artificial growth, and the market will shrink, I think it's safe to assume that is because the casuals will be gone, and we will therefore go back to rely solely on core gamers. And if that's the case we go back to the old rules; best 3rd party support wins. BUT, since almost all games goes multiplat this rule is once more changed. So it comes back to 1st party games. And Nintendo rules this category. BUT, as we saw in the GC era, Nintendo don't do to well when all they've got is 1st party games. SO in conclusion; Nintendo needs 3rd party support, or they will sell below 25m Wii U's, and risking going 3rd party themselves. The only thing that kept them from going 3rd party before was GameBoy and DS, and then we have to ask ourself; how much can Nintendo rely on 3DS - and for how long?

Now, I don't really care if Nintendo wins this coming gen, or if they end up last - I just want 3 things from them; quality 1st party games, GOOD 3rd party support and for them NOT to go 3rd party themselves. I don't know how we came to talk about the rules of winning a generation, I'm pretty sure this all started with me being concerned that Wii U won't be getting good 3rd party support, right? At least I think that's where we started... And I'm still concerned that Wii U will be to weak to handle some of the games on PS720...


The casual leaving will affect more Nintendo`s side than PS4 or Xbox 720. The real situation is to determine whether PS3 and Xbox 360`s fanbase consists of how much one console owners. Meaning, are they sales as of now a reflection of unsatsfied Wii owners in a big way or just a small portion of their sales.
My answer is, their sales consist in a important number of Wii owners aswell. So, in the end i expect PS4 and Xbox 3 sales to be lower than the previous generation.

And how does that benefit the Wii U?
Smaller market will mean less sales for the smaller projects and too risky for the bigger projects that will try to use their power.

I don`t believe that sales this generation will be that dispar, mainly because there are 3 competitors for the core market. And in terms of 1st and 3rd party games MS and Sony aren`t that different. So it will be hard for them to stand out. Wii U on the other hand has unique 1st party titles to make them stand out.

During the N64 era, the console wasn`t the best platform for 3rd party titles - business and then market wise. During GC... well, not even Xbox made a difference.
This time all consoles will offer a great 3rd party enviroment; no single console is the sequel to a Nes,Snes, PS1/2.
so from the start, no console is ahead.
What i meant by the above is that there were big factors that made both N64, Saturn, GC, Dreamcast and Xbox, lose so badly. And i don`t see that happening again now. So, don`t fear!   :)



IamAwsome on 03 February 2013

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata, legendary game developer Shigeru Miyamoto, and R&D General Manager Genyo Takeda, have discussed both the Wii U GPU and the CPU during the company’s latest Q4 2012 report. During the report Miyamoto admitted that they initially found it difficult to adjust to high-definition visuals, and that they had to reeducate the team members. Here’s what they had to say about the technical specifications of the Wii U, namely the CPU and GPU.

Q. Isnt the WiiU architecture too much focused on the GPU?

Miyamoto : For High End graphics there is a hurdle, since we have to reeducate our people. The development itself hasn’t changed but we are recruiting specialists that can become core members in each specialized area. External Developers are used to shader techniques and we are collaborating a lot with external companies nowadays so we have a very good development structure.

Iwata: Every gaming hardware has its specialities. There is a timing of hit and miss before the functions can be used fully. We were not able to provide development kits that get out all the power of wiiu until mid of last year. With other gaming consoles firms had 6 to 7 years to experiment but our console has a different balance so it is easy to see who has adapted and who hasn’t. However this is something time will heal so we are not too worried.

Takeda : WiiU is a machine that has a lot of performance compared to its power consumption. The GPU is definately more pronounced than the CPU . There are people saying that the CPU is weak but that is not true. It is a trendl that the cash memory is whats getting biggrr with CPUs not the processing power. i do not think at the CPu is underpowered. It’s just a design where the memory is more stressed.



Pavolink on 04 February 2013

Guys, 3rd party ND coming in "a couple of weeks"?

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/5a5inj/annoyed-gamer-scary-business

 

From 5:30 on.



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DélioPT on 05 February 2013

Iwata said that they had 3rd party games to reveal, so... the sooner, the better!



DélioPT on 07 February 2013

New game for Wii U!

Aussie-gamer promised some interesting news and they delivered!
The game is called Oliver & Spike: Dimension Jumpers.

You can check the two pics here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=582164445145764&set=a.281056138589931.84555.191711627524383&type=1&theater#!/AussieGamr



Better than nothing, right? Actually, the game looks good.



Demensha on 07 February 2013
DanneSandin said:
Demensha said:
The big difference for me is not graphics per say(while very important, Im playing DS2 for the 3rd time again cause its fun) but rather how I can use the system and with how many people. For example BF3 is an amazing game on the pc, he'll if the game was in full 1080p on Xbox and ps3 I would even say its close to pc level visuals,but that's not what it's about. If next gen systems are doing 64-128 person battles and wii u can only run 24-32 players max that may be a be factor in sales( talking about shooters only).

What I find funny is why is Nintendo critized for spending 100$+ per console for the tablet instead of better hardware, yet somehow nextbox will have kinect 2.0 and ps4 may have move built in or a tablet controller and somehow their costs aren't increased. Why not ? How can the other 2 make a console with extra controllers/peripherals and extreme advanced hardware and it only cost 350-400$? I think people are either dreaming about the next gen specs or the prices will be closer to 500$ my 2 cents.

I think it's mainly because they're much more willing to take a hit for each sold console... Sony lost $300/PS3 in the beginning... that's HUUUUGE!

And I agree; I don't care too much about graphics, just as long as the ports don't llok or run ugly/bad on Wii U



yeah but we all know sony took that hit to get the blu ray into the homes not for anything else. if that failed to take off imagine where sony would be now. either way its still extremely annoying that nintendo is flamed for it yet the other 2 get better hardware and add peripherals yet some how come in 50$ more, just seems insane to me i guess blind faith.



DanneSandin on 08 February 2013
Demensha said:
DanneSandin said:
Demensha said:
The big difference for me is not graphics per say(while very important, Im playing DS2 for the 3rd time again cause its fun) but rather how I can use the system and with how many people. For example BF3 is an amazing game on the pc, he'll if the game was in full 1080p on Xbox and ps3 I would even say its close to pc level visuals,but that's not what it's about. If next gen systems are doing 64-128 person battles and wii u can only run 24-32 players max that may be a be factor in sales( talking about shooters only).

What I find funny is why is Nintendo critized for spending 100$+ per console for the tablet instead of better hardware, yet somehow nextbox will have kinect 2.0 and ps4 may have move built in or a tablet controller and somehow their costs aren't increased. Why not ? How can the other 2 make a console with extra controllers/peripherals and extreme advanced hardware and it only cost 350-400$? I think people are either dreaming about the next gen specs or the prices will be closer to 500$ my 2 cents.

I think it's mainly because they're much more willing to take a hit for each sold console... Sony lost $300/PS3 in the beginning... that's HUUUUGE!

And I agree; I don't care too much about graphics, just as long as the ports don't llok or run ugly/bad on Wii U



yeah but we all know sony took that hit to get the blu ray into the homes not for anything else. if that failed to take off imagine where sony would be now. either way its still extremely annoying that nintendo is flamed for it yet the other 2 get better hardware and add peripherals yet some how come in 50$ more, just seems insane to me i guess blind faith.

Well, to be fair; Sony also added that Cel thing which cost a bunch...



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IamAwsome on 09 February 2013

http://nintendoeverything.com/112694/chilean-games-retailer-zmart-lists-battlefield-4-modern-warfare-4-as-coming-to-wii-u/

 

 

The image above shows a supposed “Zmart” listing for Battlefield 4 on Wii U, as noted by theNintendo Pe Facebook fan page. The source also mentions the store as having the Pikachu 3DS XL available for pre-order with a tentative March date. The only problem? They also list “Zelda Wii U” and “Modern Warfare 4 Wii U” as coming, despite the fact that those are clearly just placeholders.

Is this to be believed? Maybe. For now, we’ll remain skeptical. We won’t know for sure until Activision or EA say something!