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Mummelmann on 10 January 2008
trestres said:
Mummelmann, the fact is that Wii is a lot more knowwn everywhere than ps3 or x360 due to the fact that is more casual oriented, you cant deny that. Most people do know about wii.

 You say everywhere, I say not everywhere. The situation is very different here in Norway, trust me! It was the same with GC, infact; most Norwegians think Nintendo left the industry after the N64... It's true. 

The Wii is a lot more casual oriented, but I'm dead serious when I say that here most people don't know abouth the Wii. And I'm not saying that because I'm not a Nintendo fan, I am a huge Nintendo fan but not a Wii fan, Vgchartz users seem to have problems understanding the difference.



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Mummelmann on 10 January 2008
HappySqurriel said:
Bruceongames said:
HappySqurriel said:
super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
super_etecoon said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
and gamers can't enjoy cars?

ioi and artofangels say hi.


Well then tell Bruce that


I think we should leave the guy alone.

He came here with the trappings of a journalist and so we gave him a lot of attention.

By now we know he is just pushing a certain agenda and loves to get some of you riled up. Let him have his predictions and his opinions....there's no way he is going to change his mind...or yours.

 


I’m just annoyed with how arrogant he is even though he is sloppier and has less insight than a lot of members of this site.

Especially the ones with thousands of posts.

 


Make 10 posts a day over a year (which can be done in very little time every day) and you too can have a ton of posts ...

The reason I consider your analysis "Sloppy" is that you don't spend the time to define the terms you use, and you don't demonstrate that the data you choose to use actually fits the argument you're attempting to make.

What is a "Normal Person"?

Being that we are discussing videogame sales I would assume it is in reference to the silent majority of gamers. Previous analysis that has been done has demonstrated that 80% of gamers bought their previous generation console for less than $200, and at least 50% of gamers only owned one console; it is reasonable to assume (due to software sales) that most gamers don't buy too many of the "key" games that the "core" gamers put a lot of emphasis into. Most consoles have attach rates under 10 (or so) games, and since "core" gamers tend to have very large libraries it is unlikely that the majority of gamers have more than 10 games for their systems; this (to a certain extent) demonstrates that videogames are not a major hobby of theirs.

How well does your data match this line of thinking about "normal people"?

The posters on this thread seem far more representative of the (at this moment undefined) "core" gamers rather than the "normal people" that it was trying to be attached to.


 Good points HappySquirrel; if one looks at the December software lists for 2007, which was record breaking; the numbers are still kinda small when you take install base into consdieration. 65-70 million software sales divided unto roughly 45 million consoles is not a whole lot over the course of over one month (the bussiest of the year even) when you think about it. This shows how few games casual gamers actually buy, and gives somewhat of an impression of how the industry works.



Grey Acumen on 10 January 2008
Mummelmann said:
trestres said:
Mummelmann, the fact is that Wii is a lot more knowwn everywhere than ps3 or x360 due to the fact that is more casual oriented, you cant deny that. Most people do know about wii.

You say everywhere, I say not everywhere. The situation is very different here in Norway, trust me! It was the same with GC, infact; most Norwegians think Nintendo left the industry after the N64... It's true.

The Wii is a lot more casual oriented, but I'm dead serious when I say that here most people don't know abouth the Wii. And I'm not saying that because I'm not a Nintendo fan, I am a huge Nintendo fan but not a Wii fan, Vgchartz users seem to have problems understanding the difference.

Norway, isn't that where norwhales come from?

I'm not dissing norway, dude, i just thought I should point out when people say it's better known everywhere, they mean on a global scales, not actually physically EVERYWHERE.



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Mummelmann on 10 January 2008
Grey Acumen said:
Mummelmann said:
trestres said:
Mummelmann, the fact is that Wii is a lot more knowwn everywhere than ps3 or x360 due to the fact that is more casual oriented, you cant deny that. Most people do know about wii.

You say everywhere, I say not everywhere. The situation is very different here in Norway, trust me! It was the same with GC, infact; most Norwegians think Nintendo left the industry after the N64... It's true.

The Wii is a lot more casual oriented, but I'm dead serious when I say that here most people don't know abouth the Wii. And I'm not saying that because I'm not a Nintendo fan, I am a huge Nintendo fan but not a Wii fan, Vgchartz users seem to have problems understanding the difference.

Norway, isn't that where norwhales come from?

I'm not dissing norway, dude, i just thought I should point out when people say it's better known everywhere, they mean on a global scales, not actually physically EVERYWHERE.


 I know, but I've been told of several times when making these points that I'm wrong. The rest of the Nordic countries are also very similar. Saying it's a well known console is okay, saying it's equally well known in all regions is a blatantly false one. I'm just painting the difference, is all!



valen200 on 10 January 2008
Bodhesatva said:

Bruce: the mere fact that a hefty portion of these people are talking about getting two or even three consoles this quickly suggests that they are not, in fact, "normal" consumers. Like us, these are the hardcore.

There's pretty much no way to get "normal" responses on the internet -- because "normal" people don't post on forums about video games. If they consume video games at all, they consume them for a few hours a week, and that's it.

 I guess this makes me not normal. Oh, well. 

 



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stranne on 11 January 2008
Mummelmann said:
trestres said:
Mummelmann, the fact is that Wii is a lot more knowwn everywhere than ps3 or x360 due to the fact that is more casual oriented, you cant deny that. Most people do know about wii.

You say everywhere, I say not everywhere. The situation is very different here in Norway, trust me! It was the same with GC, infact; most Norwegians think Nintendo left the industry after the N64... It's true.

The Wii is a lot more casual oriented, but I'm dead serious when I say that here most people don't know abouth the Wii. And I'm not saying that because I'm not a Nintendo fan, I am a huge Nintendo fan but not a Wii fan, Vgchartz users seem to have problems understanding the difference.


 At least some do, SMG and M&S are on the charts.



Bruceongames on 11 January 2008

I liked this post in that Pistonheads thread: "the Wii is a bit like driving a mini cooper and getting excited by its cuteness and kart handling, then jumping into a GT3 and suddenly you realise the mini is actually a bucket of shit."



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Avinash_Tyagi on 11 January 2008
Bruceongames said:
I liked this post in that Pistonheads thread: "the Wii is a bit like driving a mini cooper and getting excited by its cuteness and kart handling, then jumping into a GT3 and suddenly you realise the mini is actually a bucket of shit."


 Glad to see you've admitted your fanboyism and Wii hate



 

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famousringo on 11 January 2008
Bruceongames said:
I liked this post in that Pistonheads thread: "the Wii is a bit like driving a mini cooper and getting excited by its cuteness and kart handling, then jumping into a GT3 and suddenly you realise the mini is actually a bucket of shit."


Meanwhile, the vast majority of the market is just using a car to get somewhere.

 Edit: I'm going to spell out my analogy for you, because you strike me as the kind of person who needs things spelled out for him. If you don't like my condescending tone, you can feel free to drop your own.

There is a small subset of people who are car enthusiasts. They like cars just because they have a powerful engine, a sleek design, and all those other cool car attributes. To them, cars are an end in themselves.

Everybody else just uses cars to get around. The only reason they have a car, is because they have places they want to go, and they'd like to get there quickly, easily, and reliably. To them, cars are a means to an end.

In our video game analogy, the destination is fun. A very select few think that the way they get there is important. That the vehicle you take is just as important as the destination. 

Everybody else just wants to get there quickly, easily and reliably.



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fkusumot on 11 January 2008
rocketpig said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sorry dude, these sound like gamers, not everyday consumers, I took my Wii home with me for the holiday, and now my parents, my sister and my uncle, all of who don't care much for games if at all, are now all buying a Wii, those are the everyday consumers that are being won over to the Wii, none of them care one bit about PS3 or 360, and all of them thought the Wii graphics were amazing

I really want to see a legitimate study done on whether the Wii is an airborne virus or not.

I think it is. It must be. The thing is wildly contagious.


 Fortunately the contagion is supply constrained. 



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