S.T.A.G.E. said:
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EA is the one in control though, I doubt Bioware have much of a say in EA's business decisions.

When will the PS3 ltd sales equal the X360 ltd sales? | |||
| First half 2013 | 65 | 23.21% | |
| Second half 2013 | 52 | 18.57% | |
| First half 2014 | 32 | 11.43% | |
| Second half 2014 | 32 | 11.43% | |
| First half 2015 | 9 | 3.21% | |
| Second half 2015 | 18 | 6.43% | |
| Later. | 72 | 25.71% | |
| Total: | 280 | ||
S.T.A.G.E. said:
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EA is the one in control though, I doubt Bioware have much of a say in EA's business decisions.

PS3 and X360 have already fired most of their best shots, released most of their best game franchises. The PS3 has erased 2.5 million of the XBox 360s 5.5 million, 1 years sales head start.
It has taken the PS3 5 years to erase 2.5 million of the XBox 360s 5.5 million first year sales. Despite Sony having a much popular brand name in Playstation especially in Europe and Japan, the PS3 is still trying to catch the XBox 360 ltd sales.
The X360 in its first year had to compete against the popular high selling PS2 and many potential buyers waited for the PS3s release in 2006.
When the next gen happens, PS3 has the blessing of the entire 360 community to outsell it lifetime.
Because it shows the decline of Sony, that it can only win after the battle is over and the spotlight is on another gen. A hollow victory if there ever was one.
Because even if 360 looses eventually, itll be when the gamers have moved on, and in the end, 360 vastly improved the xbox brands reach, where as PS3 cant match its predecessor.
Sorry if this overly seems to invoke a reaction. It is my honest thoughts on the matter.
KylieDog said:
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Actually it is.
2009 they just removed the Pro and made the elite take its 299 place, removing the 399 sku.
2010 they just added slim models and kinect bundles. 2011 nothing changed.
MS valued up the brand. But the 199, 299 standalone 360 price points have not changed.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
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The simplest answer is often the most reasonable.
ME 1 was never on PS3. Compare ME2 360 sales to PS3 sales. Yeah.
For part 3, MS is pushing this game for Kinect, doing some marketing work for EA. In return, to maximize their return on investment with the biggest target audience, they are doing the facebook app thingy too.
It may escape people sometimes, but when people know a multiplat version is gonna under perform, they just dont bother promoting it. Waste of money.
ZaneWane said:
do you have proof of that |
Bioware and Microsoft have a crazy close history. I would call it educated speculation and really, this shouldnt be a surprise to anyone.
| slowmo said: STAGE just give everyone a date so we can laugh when you're wrong again. The thread is discussing LTD not aligned launch numbers you always bring up to spin things. Lets look at the profit and loss this gen, if we want to bring up important numbers, makes horrific reading for Sony. My answer is never which means worst case scenario you can laugh at me in 2014 as thats the earliest it'll have even a slight chance imo. |
Drugs are bad friend, very, very bad. I stated many truths which you deny. To be able to see the truth, you have to look at the issue from all angles. I've seen it from your perspective and thats way too simple.
1. I stated a truth about year for year sales, in which actual majority years of existence Sony has outsold Microsoft. This Microsoft really needed the head start and they split Sonys core marketshare in half. So am I wrong if said that Sony launched with Microsoft they would be ahead of Microsoft by more than Microsoft has against them now?
2. I stated a truth about actual console value sales.
3. I stated a truth that unless Sony attacks the casuals, they cant catch up to Microsoft. A price cut on a Kinect bundle would only prove worse for Sony this gen. Sony would need a miracle in winning over the casuals this gen to catch up to Microsoft or a truly hot new core IP everyone will want to buy PS3 for, who dont already own one. Selling 18 million kinect sensors in a fourteen months is no joke. (This is the current truth which holds true the most)
What do you want me to say that Microsofts core titles are selling the console? If there was no "Kinect Effect" I'd say Sony would outsell them by next year based on straight console value, but thats not the case. Kinect saved Microsofts sales and propped them up in every month outside of september in 2011. Sony with or without Kinect was whipping Microsofts ass last year until Kinect showed its true holiday market value in the US on Black Friday. That spoke volumes to me. I will not state a year now that Sony can outsell Microsoft until Kinect sales stabalize (which its not). I'm picking up my 360 controller right now and will at this point say thats hilarious. Pardon me, I'm going back to gaming now.
Im done with this topic. That is all.
First half of 2013, people really underestimate the power of a 199euros/dollar PS3


S.T.A.G.E. said:
1. I stated a truth about year for year sales, in which actual majority years of existence Sony has outsold Microsoft. This Microsoft really needed the head start and they split Sonys core marketshare in half. So am I wrong if said that Sony launched with Microsoft they would be ahead of Microsoft by more than Microsoft has against them now? 2. I stated a truth about actual console value sales. 3. I stated a truth that unless Sony attacks the casuals, they cant catch up to Microsoft. A price cut on a Kinect bundle would only prove worse for Sony this gen. Sony would need a miracle in winning over the casuals this gen to catch up to Microsoft or a truly hot new core IP everyone will want to buy PS3 for, who dont already own one. Selling 18 million kinect sensors in a fourteen months is no joke. (This is the current truth which holds true the most) What do you want me to say that Microsofts core titles are selling the console? If there was no "Kinect Effect" I'd say Sony would outsell them by next year based on straight console value, but thats not the case. Kinect saved Microsofts sales and propped them up in every month outside of september in 2011. Sony with or without Kinect was whipping Microsofts ass last year until Kinect showed its true holiday market value in the US on Black Friday. That spoke volumes to me. I will not state a year now that Sony can outsell Microsoft until Kinect sales stabalize (which its not). I'm picking up my 360 controller right now and will at this point say thats hilarious. Pardon me, I'm going back to gaming now. Im done with this topic. That is all. |
Yawn...
Still no date, cmon it's really not hard and it is after all the POINT of this thread, something you're excellent at missing.