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Ail on 11 February 2012
ClaudeLv250 said:
Ail said:


They won't stop selling at retailers but they clearly rather sell digital copies. You can read the writing on the wall when in every quarterly report the focus is on digital sales and how much they have grown compared to previous years. Go check the latest EA and Activision press releases...( and every new retailer program to cash on used game sales is only speeding up that process).

Music has gone digital, books are going digital, games are doing the same. Yet all those medium still have physical copies too but you can see the impact on physical retailers when only 10% of sales move from physical to digital...( been to your local Borders lately or checked the PC shelf at your local Best Buy ?).

 

As for your CoD example, it's not really convincing me. CoD is one game where Activision clearly has the edge over retailers because retailers can not afford not to have those games on sales.  No matter what CoD fans will get their copies( there's a reason it's was the most preordered game this gen). If retailers can put some pressure, it's on the small publishers, not on companies like EA or Activision...

It's a silly argument. Digital won't become anywhere near dominant around the world for another 10, maybe 20 years for this to even matter. On top of that, EA's digital movements are more concerned with getting a foothold against the competition (Origin vs. Steam) than phasing out retail.  If Activision's current strategy is anything to go by, they're more focused on squeezing more money after the initial purchase, hence CoD Elite and the Skylanders figurines.

Packaged games going digital aren't comparable to books and music because games are HUGE. We've got PS3/4 using blu-ray, Wii U using the blu-ray equivalent, and there's no way 720 won't be there too. That's games that are potentially 25+ GB in size, when there are still major areas that don't have decent internet. Nobody's going to suicide their business if they don't have to.

But this discussion is moot because it doesn't even apply to Wii U. Its internal storage won't be any more of a "problem" than it was for 360 or PS3, so even if digital sales took over 50% of packaged retail next gen, it wouldn't stop these games from being available on Wii U's eshop.

Well let me make a little prediction then.

By 2020 ( 8 years from now).

Digital sales will represent more than 30% of games sales in the US for consoles and Gamestop won't exist anymore...

The majority of games will be available as digital on day one and preordered games will automatically start uploading at midnight the day of their release and will be ready on the device of your choice when you wake up...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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DeduS on 11 February 2012
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

it's taste, he sees quality, i don't, Ps3/Xbox 360 are mainly shooters and some great RPG'S here and there, Wii has more diversity in games, more balanced, especially more platformers which is the genre i like

That's simply not true. You're just as ignorant as the "Wii only has shovelware!"-people. The HD consoles have a lot more to offer than that. I own 41 PS3 games now and only one of those games is a shooter (a rail shooter at that). Shooters might be the best selling genre on PS360, but that doesn't mean that there's nothing else to play.



 

Kai Master on 11 February 2012

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oniyide on 11 February 2012
RolStoppable said:
oniyide said:

I already conceded that missing that game was detrimental. No argument there.

Like i said I concede to that missing game part, but you act like they just flat out stop releasing these games on Wii, which is not the case, they made a mistake and they are (sorta) trying to recitfy it. But the damage is already done, and like you say they moved on to othe consoles, it is what it is. 

Again, im not blaming anyone, im simply stating that the fanbase for those kind of games, at this point, have moved on. It is irrelevant to point fingers, even if I say that it is 3rd parties fault, so what?? It wont change anything, the Wii is still not gonna get as much core support as the other two and people who want to play those kinds of games, will just keep playing PS360/PC, the JD crowd can keep dancing. Everyone(mostly) is happy

What you say is relevant, because whenever you talk crap about the Wii or its owners, chances are that I'll be there to call you out on it. Talking crap doesn't equal saying something negative, it refers to making statements without basis. By now you should have noticed this pattern.

Prove what i say is wrong, your gonna tell me that the JD crowd doesnt far outweight any other audience on WIi?? YOur going to tell me that Wii owners have not been using other systems to get their fixes for certain genres that have poor representation on Wii?? I call it like i see it, you dont like it, thats your issue. 



oniyide on 11 February 2012
RolStoppable said:
oniyide said:

Prove what i say is wrong, your gonna tell me that the JD crowd doesnt far outweight any other audience on WIi?? YOur going to tell me that Wii owners have not been using other systems to get their fixes for certain genres that have poor representation on Wii?? I call it like i see it, you dont like it, thats your issue. 

Sales clearly show that the Mario crowd is bigger than the JD crowd on the Wii, so the JD crowd cannot far outweigh any other audience on the Wii; and the Mario crowd has diverse tastes, because the Mario brand covers quite a broad range of genres and all these games sell well.

If you admit that certain genres have poor representation on the Wii, then you cannot blame Wii owners for it like you initially did. Because if the games are not there, then the sales can't be either. You know, games that do not exist cannot sell.

Mario games are first party, they are going to sell the best on any ninty system regardless, that doesnt really change the fact that those people buying those games still dont care about it. Bottom line is the majortiy of WIi owners simply dont care about the games that the HD crowd cares about, and vice versa. Yes there werent that many say, FPSs on the WIi but the ones that did come out nobody really bought, again not their fault, they simply moved on to other consoles that did have thsoe games they wanted to play. Im pretty sure the JD crowd is still a hell of a lot more likely to buy a Mario game over something like COD. Mario games in general are more in line with JD games, easy to pick up and play, more family oriented, etc.



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Marks on 11 February 2012

Yeah its kinda funny how Wii fans defend their console to the death even though it has the least number of good games/exclusives.



Moren on 11 February 2012
Marks said:
Yeah its kinda funny how Wii fans defend their console to the death even though it has the least number of good games/exclusives.

Subjective.

For me, the 360 has 0 exclusives that interest me, I hate the whole line-up.

Now, some people will agree on that, that doesn't make it a fact.



theRepublic on 11 February 2012
Ail said:
theRepublic said:
Just think about what would have happened if third parties actually put a little effort into Wii games.


Activision just reported the highest net income for a third party in the last 20 years or so ( they made a little over a billion$ of profit in 2011 with some of the highest margins third party have ever achieved) so despite what most armchair ceos on this site are saying, I would say it's fair to think that they at least know what they have been doing with their franchises, especially Cod and that their financial results demonstrate that their strategy was the right one.......

And yet, we will still never know how much better they could have done by paying more attention to the market leader.



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Marks on 11 February 2012
morenoingrato said:
Marks said:
Yeah its kinda funny how Wii fans defend their console to the death even though it has the least number of good games/exclusives.

Subjective.

For me, the 360 has 0 exclusives that interest me, I hate the whole line-up.

Now, some people will agree on that, that doesn't make it a fact.


I respect that. 



Metallicube on 11 February 2012
Conegamer said:
Why wouldn't the Wii be the leader? Just because the Wii has fewer million-sellers, it still has sold by far the most SW of all three (the figures elude me, but I believe it's about 750mil), and the attach rate for all 3 consoles are very similar.

Nintendo releases fewer games, but pretty much every one will reach a million. And many will reach 5mil, a few 10mil and a couple 20mil. Because people buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games, of course.

This pretty much nails it.

What does it matter that Wii doesn't have as many million sellers? I'm pretty sure the HD consoles don't have multiple games that have cracked 10 million, and certainly don't have many that have reached 20 million. Wii still has sold by far the most software, and this is while having by far the worst third party support.