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Metallicube said:

This actually warrants a topic?

Aside from the Vita release in a couple weeks (which seems to have little traction) and the WiiU launch (which could be next year), it's gonna be a slow year. You'll find a lot of things warrant topics.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

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Ail said:
ClaudeLv250 said:

They didn't show PS360 gameplay to demo the console. They showed it to announce upcoming games. They used original tech demos on the show floor to demo the console. I seriously doubt 2, 3 years from now when we're in the next gen, people are really going to care that Darksiders II footage wasn't running from a Wii U upon announcement.

No, the Wii U doesn't only provide internal flash memory (the amount of which no one is even sure of), it has USB storage as well. I have a 200GB portable HD, I'm sure it's not going to be that hard for anyone filling up the internal space to get a portable HD too.

And no, EA and Activision absolutely do not want to phase out their relationships with retailers considering the vast majority of their sales are there. Digital distrubtion of retail games is no where near a maturity and dominance to even offset the millions of sales Activision gets from CoD.


They won't stop selling at retailers but they clearly rather sell digital copies. You can read the writing on the wall when in every quarterly report the focus is on digital sales and how much they have grown compared to previous years. Go check the latest EA and Activision press releases...( and every new retailer program to cash on used game sales is only speeding up that process).

Music has gone digital, books are going digital, games are doing the same. Yet all those medium still have physical copies too but you can see the impact on physical retailers when only 10% of sales move from physical to digital...( been to your local Borders lately or checked the PC shelf at your local Best Buy ?).

 

As for your CoD example, it's not really convincing me. CoD is one game where Activision clearly has the edge over retailers because retailers can not afford not to have those games on sales.  No matter what CoD fans will get their copies( there's a reason it's was the most preordered game this gen). If retailers can put some pressure, it's on the small publishers, not on companies like EA or Activision...

It's a silly argument. Digital won't become anywhere near dominant around the world for another 10, maybe 20 years for this to even matter. On top of that, EA's digital movements are more concerned with getting a foothold against the competition (Origin vs. Steam) than phasing out retail.  If Activision's current strategy is anything to go by, they're more focused on squeezing more money after the initial purchase, hence CoD Elite and the Skylanders figurines.

Packaged games going digital aren't comparable to books and music because games are HUGE. We've got PS3/4 using blu-ray, Wii U using the blu-ray equivalent, and there's no way 720 won't be there too. That's games that are potentially 25+ GB in size, when there are still major areas that don't have decent internet. Nobody's going to suicide their business if they don't have to.

But this discussion is moot because it doesn't even apply to Wii U. Its internal storage won't be any more of a "problem" than it was for 360 or PS3, so even if digital sales took over 50% of packaged retail next gen, it wouldn't stop these games from being available on Wii U's eshop.



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Conegamer said:
Why wouldn't the Wii be the leader? Just because the Wii has fewer million-sellers, it still has sold by far the most SW of all three (the figures elude me, but I believe it's about 750mil), and the attach rate for all 3 consoles are very similar.

Nintendo releases fewer games, but pretty much every one will reach a million. And many will reach 5mil, a few 10mil and a couple 20mil. Because people buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games, of course.

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Ail said:
theRepublic said:
Just think about what would have happened if third parties actually put a little effort into Wii games.


Activision just reported the highest net income for a third party in the last 20 years or so ( they made a little over a billion$ of profit in 2011 with some of the highest margins third party have ever achieved) so despite what most armchair ceos on this site are saying, I would say it's fair to think that they at least know what they have been doing with their franchises, especially Cod and that their financial results demonstrate that their strategy was the right one.......


But... Activision has a bunch of million sellers on the Wii! Between Call of Duty, Guitar Hero, and individual games like Goldeneye and Skylanders, they're probably the best Western supporter of the Wii. Using them as an example on why not to support the Wii is lkike using Level 5 as a reason not to support the DS!



dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Xbox360 is more diverse in audience, Microsoft secured the hardcore and then tried to get some on Nintendo's new audience, successfully, with Kinect, and that gave it a well deserved 2nd place

Ps3 is mainly hardcore and Wii is mainly casual

Wii has sold the most, about 30m above the other two, and has the biggest sellers of the generation which took it to 95m, which are all exclusives, no need to name them, so the Wii the leader and it cannot change

 

i think you will find the 'Playstation' group are filled with ALOT more diverse gamers then on xbox.

only now the xbox has.. di.. gone after the causual market has it beocome diverse in 'FPS fans, Dance fans' wich is an odd but funny combanation. 

but i would still say the Playstation as a whole has alot wider and diverse group of gamers then anything else



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PlaystaionGamer said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Xbox360 is more diverse in audience, Microsoft secured the hardcore and then tried to get some on Nintendo's new audience, successfully, with Kinect, and that gave it a well deserved 2nd place

Ps3 is mainly hardcore and Wii is mainly casual

Wii has sold the most, about 30m above the other two, and has the biggest sellers of the generation which took it to 95m, which are all exclusives, no need to name them, so the Wii the leader and it cannot change

 

i think you will find the 'Playstation' group are filled with ALOT more diverse gamers then on xbox.

only now the xbox has.. di.. gone after the causual market has it beocome diverse in 'FPS fans, Dance fans' wich is an odd but funny combanation. 

but i would still say the Playstation as a whole has alot wider and diverse group of gamers then anything else

Add shmups and graphic novels to that mix.



Wii performed well in it's useful lifecycle, has i said a lot of times HD consoles (real HD generation) started in 2010, That's Very good that Wii could stand that high even 1 year after the real time that HD gen would have started



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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
oniyide said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

no doubt i'm a paranoid, i'm posting way too much in here lately

quote from the opening: PS3&360 million sellers have many more high quality titles than Wii's.

it actually says more quality titles are found in Ps3/Xbox360 million sellers than in Wii's million sellers or smth not sure either, the thing, why count the million sellers only!?

and not how a console's games sold as a whole!? if a console has bad games, people wouldn't bother to buy games on that console

the conclusion is that Wii owners are casuals or have a terrible taste in games, to mature gamer's point of view??


I apologize, I forgot he posted that, I dont agree with him, and its still subjective.

No the conclusion is that their is just a different audience on Wii than their is on PS360. Thats all.   Zumba Fitness, Just Dance, Sonic & Sega all star racers, games like that sell better on Wii.  COD, Star Wars, Spider-man, just about anything you would consider "core" sells better on PS360. Now if you choose to take this as some kind of negative, thats on you. It is what it is to me.  I rarely hear an HD owner complain when dnace game sells better on Wii

i agree with you

that's the reason many Wii games are underappriciated, because the main Wii audience does not buy those games, therefore it is not safe to say ''Ps3/Xbox360 have more quality titles because of more million sellers''

he says ''PS3&360 million sellers have many more high quality titles than Wii's'', because Wii million sellers are not of his tastes anyway

it's taste, he sees quality, i don't, Ps3/Xbox 360 are mainly shooters and some great RPG'S here and there, Wii has more diversity in games, more balanced, especially more platformers which is the genre i like

and the reason Xbox360 got Ps3 in 2011, it's because they decided to follow Nintendo, and more beyond the shooters for once, with Kinect


Like i said i dont agree with that PS360 has more quality titles, well I do but thats PERSONAL preference, I could give a crap about the numbers in the grand scheme of things.

I love the whole PS360 are mainly shooters, Its funny coming from someone who doesnt own a HD console and frankly it comes across as ignorant, there are plenty of platfomers on PS360. Just got Sonic Generations and Rayman orgins, there a whole slew of platformers on the PSN/LIVE i wouldnt be surprised if that number is just as much as the WIi or damn close. Wii has more diversity?? They are literally MISSING whole genres, how is that diverse! Now that 360 has Kinect and all those type of games that made Wii popular PLUS the 3rd party support in addition to the online, would that make 360 the most diverse. FYI, I like fighting games, and that is an area that Wii just flat out sucks at



ClaudeLv250 said:
Ail said:
ClaudeLv250 said:

They didn't show PS360 gameplay to demo the console. They showed it to announce upcoming games. They used original tech demos on the show floor to demo the console. I seriously doubt 2, 3 years from now when we're in the next gen, people are really going to care that Darksiders II footage wasn't running from a Wii U upon announcement.

No, the Wii U doesn't only provide internal flash memory (the amount of which no one is even sure of), it has USB storage as well. I have a 200GB portable HD, I'm sure it's not going to be that hard for anyone filling up the internal space to get a portable HD too.

And no, EA and Activision absolutely do not want to phase out their relationships with retailers considering the vast majority of their sales are there. Digital distrubtion of retail games is no where near a maturity and dominance to even offset the millions of sales Activision gets from CoD.


They won't stop selling at retailers but they clearly rather sell digital copies. You can read the writing on the wall when in every quarterly report the focus is on digital sales and how much they have grown compared to previous years. Go check the latest EA and Activision press releases...( and every new retailer program to cash on used game sales is only speeding up that process).

Music has gone digital, books are going digital, games are doing the same. Yet all those medium still have physical copies too but you can see the impact on physical retailers when only 10% of sales move from physical to digital...( been to your local Borders lately or checked the PC shelf at your local Best Buy ?).

 

As for your CoD example, it's not really convincing me. CoD is one game where Activision clearly has the edge over retailers because retailers can not afford not to have those games on sales.  No matter what CoD fans will get their copies( there's a reason it's was the most preordered game this gen). If retailers can put some pressure, it's on the small publishers, not on companies like EA or Activision...

It's a silly argument. Digital won't become anywhere near dominant around the world for another 10, maybe 20 years for this to even matter. On top of that, EA's digital movements are more concerned with getting a foothold against the competition (Origin vs. Steam) than phasing out retail.  If Activision's current strategy is anything to go by, they're more focused on squeezing more money after the initial purchase, hence CoD Elite and the Skylanders figurines.

Packaged games going digital aren't comparable to books and music because games are HUGE. We've got PS3/4 using blu-ray, Wii U using the blu-ray equivalent, and there's no way 720 won't be there too. That's games that are potentially 25+ GB in size, when there are still major areas that don't have decent internet. Nobody's going to suicide their business if they don't have to.

But this discussion is moot because it doesn't even apply to Wii U. Its internal storage won't be any more of a "problem" than it was for 360 or PS3, so even if digital sales took over 50% of packaged retail next gen, it wouldn't stop these games from being available on Wii U's eshop.

Well let me make a little prediction then.

By 2020 digital game sales will represent more than 40% of US console games sales and Gamestop won't exist anymore....



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !