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So since July 2010 (Slim) the gap has grown 100k in X360's favour



 

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Seece said:

So since July 2010 (Slim) the gap has grown 100k in X360's favour



Whats the gap done since the other Slim? September 09?

                            

@Seece found it in Sony PDF (http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/11q3_sony.pdf).

Sale of Sony's shares of S-LCD Corporation (“S-LCD”)

On January 19, 2012, Sony sold to Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. (“Samsung”) all of its shares of S-LCD, the LCD panel
manufacturing joint venture owned by the two companies, and received cash consideration of approximately 72,348 million yen
(KRW 1.07 trillion) from Samsung. A non-cash other-than-temporary impairment loss of approximately 63,414 million yen was
recorded
by Sony on its shares of S-LCD in the third quarter of the fiscal year ending March 31, 2012.

So the loss due the Samsung join venture was posted this quarter (Q3 FY2011)... ~835 million dolar.

That puts the sitiation "a little less worse" for Sony .



From GAF.

Shipment ranking...

  1. PS2 154.4 --> (Software: 1528.9)
  2. NDS 151.06
  3. GB 118.69
  4. PS1 102.49 --> Cumulative Production Shipments of Hardware
  5. Wii 94.97
  6. GBA 81.51
  7. PSP 75.4 --> (Software: 324.1)
  8. 360 65.8
  9. PS3 62.0
  10. NES 61.9
  11. SNES 49.1
  12. N64 32.93
  13. NGC 21.74
  14. 3DS 15.03

 

PS3 Sales...

  PS3 Retail Sales (*) PS3 Shipments 
2011 11.0 14.1
2010 10.5 14.4
(*)EU+US+JAP (Source: Nintendo,NPD,Media Create)

PS. Seems odd... more sales and less shipment in 2011.

Shipment Marketshares this gen...

Wii - 42.63% (Down from 44.13% previous Q)
X360 - 29.54% (Up from 28.45% previous Q)
PS3 - 27.83% (Up from 27.42% previous Q)

Shipment Marketshares last gen...

PS2 - 77.05%
XB - 11.98%
GC - 10.98



PS1 102.49 --> Cumulative Production Shipments of Hardware
Wii 94.97

Wonder if Wii can pass PS1 by the end of 2012



 

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Seece said:
PS1 102.49 --> Cumulative Production Shipments of Hardware
Wii 94.97

Wonder if Wii can pass PS1 by the end of 2012

It will be close... Nintendo estimates to sell 10m Wiis for this fiscal year (ends March)... for the next I expect 8m or less... so close to what it need to top PS1 by the end of 2012.

And the PS2 sales after March 2006: 53.6m (is it this or last gen?)

 



kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:

From GAF.

Shipment ranking...

  1. PS2 154.4 --> (Software: 1528.9)
  2. NDS 151.06
  3. GB 118.69
  4. PS1 102.49 --> Cumulative Production Shipments of Hardware
  5. Wii 94.97
  6. GBA 81.51
  7. PSP 75.4 --> (Software: 324.1)
  8. 360 65.8
  9. PS3 62.0
  10. NES 61.9
  11. SNES 49.1
  12. N64 32.93
  13. NGC 21.74
  14. 3DS 15.03

 

PS3 Sales...

  PS3 Retail Sales (*) PS3 Shipments 
2011 11.0 14.1
2010 10.5 14.4
(*)EU+US+JAP (Source: Nintendo,NPD,Media Create)

PS. Seems odd... more sales and less shipment in 2011.

Shipment Marketshares this gen...

Wii - 42.63% (Down from 44.13% previous Q)
X360 - 29.54% (Up from 28.45% previous Q)
PS3 - 27.83% (Up from 27.42% previous Q)

Shipment Marketshares last gen...

PS2 - 77.05%
XB - 11.98%
GC - 10.98

Regarding it seeming off with more sales v less shipments...

Only three solutions

A: Too much stock in the channel at the start of the year... doesnt seem likely as figure was very similar to now (1.67 v 1.71)

B: VGC has over tracked

C: Both of the above.

It's not VGC data... it's Nintendo data for EU, NPD for US and MC for Japan.

VGC had for WW...

2011: 14,059,943
2010: 13,884,453

Very close.



I am very concerned for Sony's long term survival it has been steadily losing money for years. With the yen so high and still rising with the US preparing to raise taxes on international corporations and give American products huge cuts and assistance.

I fear for all of Japan's companies including Nintendo and car companies.

Sony is going to take a massive hit if Vita doesn't succeed in Europe and America. Once WiiU launches in late 2012 I fully expect PS3 to be hit at least a little. I would say Sony's Playstatikn brand will be hit with massive losses. For many reasons Vita but also R&D for PS4 which is already in development but Sony will need to adapt it for the market. Sony will have a very hard few years ahead for its PlayStation brand, two new consoles (Vita/PS4) as well as other smart phones and tablet tech.

Sony will also face a harder time with all the other branches. Simply put things will only get worse as America introduces protectionist measures.

Sony will take heavy losses each year in the near future. PS4 will need to be a huge success Vita can't get a price cut if it fails Sony will need to drop it. Sony will likely need to sell some assets and outsource more production. The company needs to further restructure future products will need to sell at a profit, Sony cannot sustain losses on products like it did with PS3.



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

Shipment Marketshares last gen...
PS2 - 77.05%
XB - 11.98%
GC - 10.98

How the mighty have fallen...



ethomaz said:
Seece said:
PS1 102.49 --> Cumulative Production Shipments of Hardware
Wii 94.97

Wonder if Wii can pass PS1 by the end of 2012

It will be close... Nintendo estimates to sell 10m Wiis for this fiscal year (ends March)... for the next I expect 8m or less... so close to what it need to top PS1 by the end of 2012.

And the PS2 sales after March 2006: 53.6m (is it this or last gen?)

 

I expect less than 8. If they dropped from 8.74 last xmas to 5.6 this year, I see them down this xmas at least 1m, price cut or no price cut

Q1 - 1m
Q2 - 0.8 - 1.2m depending on if they cut the price
Q3 - 0.8 - 1.5m again, depending on price cuts
Q4 - 4.5~

7.1 - 8.2

102.7 - 103.8. So yeah, gonna be very close!