where did i say that?

im not going to argue about this as it is very offtopic, and brought up because Seece cant handle somebody with different views than him, so he acts very close-minded and prejuduce.

Wrong, only 4 states Banned gay adoption....

that's unfortunate

Don't worry soon it's going to be 0 since many have been overturned in the last 10 years.

^_^

" i didnt attack his life style , just pointed out the reality of choosing that lifestyle"

Maybe it was unintentional, but still

Personally I got a few smacks when I was a kid and I'm not angsty or a criminal. Everytime I got a time out instead of some good slaps in the butt I stood staring in the wall wondering what the fuck momma meant by "think about what you've done".

Often times people do not find a balance. The line between is discipline is very thin; it is not uncommon for parents to blow one minor thing a child does out of proportion, just so they can find an excuse to beat the hell out of them.

Some smacks on the hand or the old rump should be all that occur; smacking a kid in the face is unreal. I have no idea how you could look into the eyes of your own child and literally smack their self-image. I find that explanation FIRST and then spanking later is a better option. When the child is putting themselves in danger then yea, spank em.

You have a hard day at work and beat your kids when they sneeze wrong? Shame on you.

I think it's fine under a few circumstances. First, it shouldn't be the only way to discipline a child or your only option. Really it should be the last if the kid just will not listen to reason. Also, using things like rulers and cables from the back of the tv (oh the memories) shouldn't be use. A simply smack in the wrist, hand or buttcheek is more than enough to tell the kid "cut that shit out now." A decent and proper scolding should never leave a mark.

Either way, if you hit your children, but your a bad parent to begin with, then your just beating them. Like drink in front of them, smoke in front of them, curse like a sailor, teaching them obvious bad habits even if you don't mean to. Kids pick up on everything you do and once they get to a certain age they will understand that they were hit because they were doing something bad and sometimes words will not suffice.

Just as a quick thing, my parents smack me from to time. Sometimes with their own hand or like a sandal or ruler and while I don't think it was proper parenting to hit me with those "tools", I understood why they did it and I turn out to be a kind person, thanks to them being strict and disciplining me, by both vocal lectures/scoldings or light, physical strikes, I turn out to be a decent person. Also, I have always looked up to them as good parents. I never remember being angry at them for more than a few hours.

To wrap up, it's fine and perfectly natural to discipline children with light scoldings, not to hurt, but to teach (if that makes sense.) You aren't scarring them for life if there is a good reason behind said action and in time, they should understand and reflect on the reasons why they were scolded.

PS: I did not read the article, just answered based on the title.

oh, yeah, kinda did seem that way, but i was talking about who he copulates with

I never thought of like that. I got smacked in the mouth once by my dad for calling my sister a bitch (granted, she was being a complete female dog that one day.)

I was 14 or 15 at the time and it really did feel pretty awful. I didn't stay that way very long or became resentful, but i did not call her a bitch for a looooong time. Now we can joke around but yeh. Good input.