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hunter_alien said:
Well I dont care TBH. I have no idea


This is where I stopped.

You have your own opinions, but don't use them as facts.  I think we need more info about this game to make a judgment like that.



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deskpro2k3 said:
hunter_alien said:
Well I dont care TBH. I have no idea


This is where I stopped.

You have your own opinions, but don't use them as facts.  I think we need more info about this game to make a judgment like that.


You are correct BUT, you do have to admit that the first glimpse we got out of the game promised us one generic shooter. NOTHING in it looked like something trully original and never before seen. I mean Starhawk, as a spacecombat/shooter has a far better premisse then this game. I would be more then glad if the game got raving reviews, but I doubt that it will happen. It will be a nobel experiment IMO.

 

Also I cant grasp the financial viability of this game. Why PS3? Why not PC? EVE has ~350k active users, and I doubt that many EVE players will jump in this FPS rump. I mean best case, the game could sell what? MAybe if its lucky a million copies, and then have like 100k active users? And that would be a stellar achievement. I doubt that many CoD, Battlefield or KZ players will pick up this instead of their favorite title.

 

I hope that I am wrong, and that the game will be great or at least good ( I want as many good games to be released as everybody else, beleiev me) but Im just not seeing it . CCP is not a big enough, or diverse enough team, to create a qulity FPS... like it or not, except the fairly well known, yet niche EVE, they never created anything else. I trully hope that Sony is at least funding them, so they can at least hire some talent Again, Im not hating on the game before its released, I just have some concernes about the quality of the final product



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deskpro2k3 said:
hunter_alien said:
Well I dont care TBH. I have no idea


This is where I stopped.

You have your own opinions, but don't use them as facts.  I think we need more info about this game to make a judgment like that.

Hehe you are right. That is not really a good way to express an opinion. I don't care and i have no idea but here i have something to say. :D



hunter_alien said:
Well I dont care TBH. I have no idea, how people can even be excited for this trailer. I know that it has a strong connection with EVE, but lets be honest, player count wise, that game is NOT a juggernaut. And Dust looks like one generic shooter... I mean even MAG had more personality then this game.

I doubt that this one will have a big impact. Lets be honest the only way to get some real fun out of it, is to play both games non-stop... and that is just waaaay to time consuming. Add in microtransaction with own currency, and you have bestcasescenarionichetitle written all over it




pezus said:
hunter_alien said:
deskpro2k3 said:
hunter_alien said:
Well I dont care TBH. I have no idea


This is where I stopped.

You have your own opinions, but don't use them as facts.  I think we need more info about this game to make a judgment like that.


You are correct BUT, you do have to admit that the first glimpse we got out of the game promised us one generic shooter. NOTHING in it looked like something trully original and never before seen. I mean Starhawk, as a spacecombat/shooter has a far better premisse then this game. I would be more then glad if the game got raving reviews, but I doubt that it will happen. It will be a nobel experiment IMO.

 

Also I cant grasp the financial viability of this game. Why PS3? Why not PC? EVE has ~350k active users, and I doubt that many EVE players will jump in this FPS rump. I mean best case, the game could sell what? MAybe if its lucky a million copies, and then have like 100k active users? And that would be a stellar achievement. I doubt that many CoD, Battlefield or KZ players will pick up this instead of their favorite title.

 

I hope that I am wrong, and that the game will be great or at least good ( I want as many good games to be released as everybody else, beleiev me) but Im just not seeing it . CCP is not a big enough, or diverse enough team, to create a qulity FPS... like it or not, except the fairly well known, yet niche EVE, they never created anything else. I trully hope that Sony is at least funding them, so they can at least hire some talent Again, Im not hating on the game before its released, I just have some concernes about the quality of the final product

How is Dust not original while Starhawk is? This kind of integration between two different games has never been done before as far as I know. Sony made CCP an exclusivity offer of course, which is the reason they're not making a PC/360 version. I believe they were planning on making it PC/360/PS3 in the beginning. 

 

Yeah, the integration sounds good, agreed on that, but what about the FPS element alone? Did you even see how dull the gameplay looked? I mean come on, yet agains the same gray sci-fi setting we all know and played hundreds of times before? Its just like the WW2, and now the modern setting: its dull. the integration sound amazing, and grand in scope, but I doubt that the playerbase will be there to suppport it. I know that for 64 player battles you dont need fully loaded servers all the time, but it still needs a good ammount of players.

In modern days, when fast-paced pick-up and play FPSs dominate the market ( BF beeing the only popular exception) I dont see the mass apeal for the game. I respect CCP for being able to sustain a solid fanbase with EVE, I dont want them to go under, just because they undertook a massive project, and that project sunked them.

Again, Im not hating, I just dont see the financial viability of the game. But if you do feel free to share it with me, its a new concept indeed and Im open and interested to other point of views



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o_O.Q said:
hunter_alien said:
Well I dont care TBH. I have no idea, how people can even be excited for this trailer. I know that it has a strong connection with EVE, but lets be honest, player count wise, that game is NOT a juggernaut. And Dust looks like one generic shooter... I mean even MAG had more personality then this game.

I doubt that this one will have a big impact. Lets be honest the only way to get some real fun out of it, is to play both games non-stop... and that is just waaaay to time consuming. Add in microtransaction with own currency, and you have bestcasescenarionichetitle written all over it


 

You could simply write down your own opinion and argue against mine. I know that taking a pic from ragetrolling is easier then actually comming up with solid points, but hey, its your choice m8



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hunter_alien said:
o_O.Q said:
hunter_alien said:
Well I dont care TBH. I have no idea, how people can even be excited for this trailer. I know that it has a strong connection with EVE, but lets be honest, player count wise, that game is NOT a juggernaut. And Dust looks like one generic shooter... I mean even MAG had more personality then this game.

I doubt that this one will have a big impact. Lets be honest the only way to get some real fun out of it, is to play both games non-stop... and that is just waaaay to time consuming. Add in microtransaction with own currency, and you have bestcasescenarionichetitle written all over it


 

You could simply write down your own opinion and argue against mine. I know that taking a pic from ragetrolling is easier then actually comming up with solid points, but hey, its your choice m8


yeah basically reviewing a game from a 2 minute trailer is more rational m8



o_O.Q said:
hunter_alien said:
o_O.Q said:
hunter_alien said:
Well I dont care TBH. I have no idea, how people can even be excited for this trailer. I know that it has a strong connection with EVE, but lets be honest, player count wise, that game is NOT a juggernaut. And Dust looks like one generic shooter... I mean even MAG had more personality then this game.

I doubt that this one will have a big impact. Lets be honest the only way to get some real fun out of it, is to play both games non-stop... and that is just waaaay to time consuming. Add in microtransaction with own currency, and you have bestcasescenarionichetitle written all over it


 

You could simply write down your own opinion and argue against mine. I know that taking a pic from ragetrolling is easier then actually comming up with solid points, but hey, its your choice m8


yeah basically reviewing a game from a 2 minute trailer is more rational m8

 

Its called a first impression, and as you can tell it wasnt good



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deskpro2k3 said:
hunter_alien said:
Well I dont care TBH. I have no idea


This is where I stopped.

You have your own opinions, but don't use them as facts.  I think we need more info about this game to make a judgment like that.

I really don't get this post. How do you come to the conclusion he's using opinion as fact off that part you quoted? And there is no judgement in what you quoted.

So you read it all. Which is why saying "this is where I stopped" when you didn't actually stop is a lie. We all have opinions on others opinions, but don't lie to the entire community. Come on now...



Aj_habfan said:
deskpro2k3 said:
hunter_alien said:
Well I dont care TBH. I have no idea


This is where I stopped.

You have your own opinions, but don't use them as facts.  I think we need more info about this game to make a judgment like that.

I really don't get this post. How do you come to the conclusion he's using opinion as fact off that part you quoted? And there is no judgement in what you quoted.

So you read it all. Which is why saying "this is where I stopped" when you didn't actually stop is a lie. We all have opinions on others opinions, but don't lie to the entire community. Come on now...

 

There is retard, and then there is Ben Stiller style full retard. Don't ever go Ben Stiller style full retard.

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Back on topic:

I see the discussion is going this way about why its on ps3 etc, so I dug up a bit of info.

 

"Most of Dust is running on our own technology ... And Sony is a lot more... open, shall we say, to allowing you to do those things," says producer Thomas Farrer. "It may seem silly, but on Xbox Live your identity is your Xbox Live identity. In the EVE universe, having people not know who you are is quite important." On whether a 360 version is a possibility, he says that working on platform "means you don’t have to make any awkward compromises, technically. Also you get the benefit of a closer relationship with that platform."

Source: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/08/ccp-sony-more-open-to-dust-experiment/

I believe they want all EVE Online customers right where they are. This way Dust 514 players on PS3 could probably dominate the EVE universe by themself. Thats my reason its not coming for PC.