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sales2099 on 21 January 2012
Slimebeast said:

Comparison of hardcore exclusives that are relevant for the future, meaning they are expected to get sequels
(motion controlled, cartoon-style, racing/sports and downloadable games are left out):

God of War
Uncharted
Killzone
ICO
Last Story
Starhawk
SOCUM
Lil Big People
Infamos
Twisted Metal
Dust 514
Valkyrie Chronicles
The studio who makes Heavy Rain


Halo
Gears
Fable
Crackdud
Alan Wake

Let's be honest here, MS needs to do much more for the hardcore gamer.

Hmm. Counting last gen IPs (ICO especially lol), counting games from since PS3 launch to games not even out yet....by comparison not including exclusives from 360s launch till present, including 360/PC titles (not on PS3, thus relevant). Also neglecting all 360s AAA XBLA titles. 

Lets be honest here, there be MS hating here. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

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sales2099 on 21 January 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Millenium said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Millenium said:
Nsanity said:
Slimebeast said:

Comparison of hardcore exclusives that are relevant for the future, meaning they are expected to get sequels
(motion controlled, cartoon-style, racing/sports and downloadable games are left out):

God of War
Uncharted
Killzone
ICO
Last Story
Starhawk
SOCUM
Lil Big People
Infamos
Twisted Metal
Dust 514
Valkyrie Chronicles
The studio who makes Heavy Rain


Halo
Gears
Fable
Crackdud
Alan Wake

Let's be honest here, MS needs to do much more for the hardcore gamer.

Just so they can make your list bigger?



Obviously.

The amount of sad MS badgering going on here is...sad

We should be badgering them. When the media notices and confronts them for for the second year in a row it becomes kind of obvious there is a problem. Microsoft isnt exactly a company you can rest assured with for gaming, they will be complacent only where profit resides even if it has aboslutely nothing to do with gaming on a gaming console itself. They must also learn be satisfied with a title that sells under three million copies. Not every game is a mega hit. They've been in this for almost two generations and still havent understood that you can have your sellers but its also important as a gaming company to prove your console has a wealth of exclusives to attract gamers. We already know novelties like Kinect can  attract casuals.



No, you shouldn't, hosting your opinion on the matter is fine, and I fully appreciate you to do so, but quattro posting just to hate on MS isn't fine.

If MS was doing some bad on the game department people would stop buying 360's, and so far that hasn't happended.

I've also owned a PS3 since 2009, and since then it has consumed less than 5% of my gaming time, and that isn't likely to change untill TLG and TLOU come out, so Sony isn't doing all that well for me either.

It's all of matter of preference in the end, I prefer 4-5 exclusives that I really want to play, instead of 30 exclusives from which I only want to play 2-3, and I fully appreciate that you disagree, but you could certainly do it with a better attitude.

Ok so....its acceptable to only give two exclusives a year and call yourself a legit gaming company? You mean I purchased my 360 to have it collect dust if Im not playing multiplayer on Live? Sorry bro, I'm a gamer. I think I should. The way I see it, if you purchased a product with your hard earned money and have invested in it for years you deserve to bitch when it calls for it. Microsoft pretty much just admitted the problem and gave their reasoning and quite frankly saying its not easy to make AAA titles isnt good enough. Nintendo and Sony can do it....they say they have bigger blockbusters titles. Its about time they put up or shut up.

First off almost everybody here is ignoring how XBLA pumps out more and better rated games then PSN every year. Unless were all "budget racist" and only care about retail, big budget games.

But MS is doing just fine and their reasoning is sound. Sony tried so hard this gen with new IPs and out of all of them, only Uncharted "stuck" with the gamers, the rest being forgettable and didnt sell according to expectations. MS should not do what Sony does: taking blind shots in the dark hoping one of them connects with the gamers....cause frankly thats a waste of time and money, given their poor sales. 

The final quote was spot on how its all about "quality and IMPACT then number of releases". Its funny to think that Halo 4 will have more buzz and probably more sales then most big name PS3 exclusives combined this year. But theres still the smaller games not on PS3: Minecraft, Alan Wake, Fable The Journey, Ryse, Steel Battelion, Star Wars, The Witcher, plus the usual XBLA titles that just demolish what PSN has to offer. 

As a 360 gamer, I couldnt be happier with my 360. Too many people here are "list whores"...making lists for the sake of seeing whos is bigger. However thats only the on paper aspect. Real world numbers suggest MS is right, given the poor sales of most PS3 new Ips. 


I take it you've seen PSNs exclusive games right? List whores arent listing shitty games, remember that. I have both and enjoy both but I know who is giving me more. XBLA has great games, but so does PSN. Its no longer one sided like it used to be. If you have Plus you get discounts on a lot of those games year round as well. You just dont get to keep the free games.

I have, and they still pale in comparison to what XBLA does every year. And this year is no exception. I personally keep track of XBLA vs PSN games and how they are ranked. Given a few months time id be happy to shed some light on that.

List whores list great games but again.....on paper. Nevemind how many were undersold, similar multiplats were a superior pick, pretty much saying whats the point of quality if PS3 gamers dont care about it. The lists never take into account what their own kind does with their money towards them...or lack their of. 

If you have Live Gold you get discounts on games too. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

S.T.A.G.E. on 21 January 2012
sales2099 said:
Slimebeast said:

Comparison of hardcore exclusives that are relevant for the future, meaning they are expected to get sequels
(motion controlled, cartoon-style, racing/sports and downloadable games are left out):

God of War
Uncharted
Killzone
ICO
Last Story
Starhawk
SOCUM
Lil Big People
Infamos
Twisted Metal
Dust 514
Valkyrie Chronicles
The studio who makes Heavy Rain


Halo
Gears
Fable
Crackdud
Alan Wake

Let's be honest here, MS needs to do much more for the hardcore gamer.

Hmm. Counting last gen IPs (ICO especially lol), counting games from since PS3 launch to games not even out yet....by comparison not including exclusives from 360s launch till present, including 360/PC titles (not on PS3, thus relevant). Also neglecting all 360s AAA XBLA titles. 

Lets be honest here, there be MS hating here. 

This post is about a lack of exclusive MS IP's. People use XBLA as a crutch...when no one is using PSN as a crutch for Sony. Even Nintendo had better exclusives last year.



Ajescent on 21 January 2012

I remember the good old days when the argument was the ps3 has no gaemz and lists where used to prove this point time and time again...how times have changed.



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smroadkill15 on 21 January 2012
pezus said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Millenium said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Millenium said:
Nsanity said:
Slimebeast said:

Comparison of hardcore exclusives that are relevant for the future, meaning they are expected to get sequels
(motion controlled, cartoon-style, racing/sports and downloadable games are left out):

God of War
Uncharted
Killzone
ICO
Last Story
Starhawk
SOCUM
Lil Big People
Infamos
Twisted Metal
Dust 514
Valkyrie Chronicles
The studio who makes Heavy Rain


Halo
Gears
Fable
Crackdud
Alan Wake

Let's be honest here, MS needs to do much more for the hardcore gamer.

Just so they can make your list bigger?



Obviously.

The amount of sad MS badgering going on here is...sad

We should be badgering them. When the media notices and confronts them for for the second year in a row it becomes kind of obvious there is a problem. Microsoft isnt exactly a company you can rest assured with for gaming, they will be complacent only where profit resides even if it has aboslutely nothing to do with gaming on a gaming console itself. They must also learn be satisfied with a title that sells under three million copies. Not every game is a mega hit. They've been in this for almost two generations and still havent understood that you can have your sellers but its also important as a gaming company to prove your console has a wealth of exclusives to attract gamers. We already know novelties like Kinect can  attract casuals.



No, you shouldn't, hosting your opinion on the matter is fine, and I fully appreciate you to do so, but quattro posting just to hate on MS isn't fine.

If MS was doing some bad on the game department people would stop buying 360's, and so far that hasn't happended.

I've also owned a PS3 since 2009, and since then it has consumed less than 5% of my gaming time, and that isn't likely to change untill TLG and TLOU come out, so Sony isn't doing all that well for me either.

It's all of matter of preference in the end, I prefer 4-5 exclusives that I really want to play, instead of 30 exclusives from which I only want to play 2-3, and I fully appreciate that you disagree, but you could certainly do it with a better attitude.

Ok so....its acceptable to only give two exclusives a year and call yourself a legit gaming company? You mean I purchased my 360 to have it collect dust if Im not playing multiplayer on Live? Sorry bro, I'm a gamer. I think I should. The way I see it, if you purchased a product with your hard earned money and have invested in it for years you deserve to bitch when it calls for it. Microsoft pretty much just admitted the problem and gave their reasoning and quite frankly saying its not easy to make AAA titles isnt good enough. Nintendo and Sony can do it....they say they have bigger blockbusters titles. Its about time they put up or shut up.

First off almost everybody here is ignoring how XBLA pumps out more and better rated games then PSN every year. Unless were all "budget racist" and only care about retail, big budget games.

But MS is doing just fine and their reasoning is sound. Sony tried so hard this gen with new IPs and out of all of them, only Uncharted "stuck" with the gamers, the rest being forgettable and didnt sell according to expectations. MS should not do what Sony does: taking blind shots in the dark hoping one of them connects with the gamers....cause frankly thats a waste of time and money, given their poor sales. 

The final quote was spot on how its all about "quality and IMPACT then number of releases". Its funny to think that Halo 4 will have more buzz and probably more sales then most big name PS3 exclusives combined this year. But theres still the smaller games not on PS3: Minecraft, Alan Wake, Fable The Journey, Ryse, Steel Battelion, Star Wars, The Witcher, plus the usual XBLA titles that just demolish what PSN has to offer. 

As a 360 gamer, I couldnt be happier with my 360. Too many people here are "list whores"...making lists for the sake of seeing whos is bigger. However thats only the on paper aspect. Real world numbers suggest MS is right, given the poor sales of most PS3 new Ips. 

No one is mentioning them because they're almost always not exclusive. Also, this is a bad stereotype that PSN doesn't get as many and good games as XBLA. Your last paragraph is kind of ironic though...

Yes, PSN has a pretty good amount of games, but in terms of qualilty and quantity XBLA is superior. Have you even seem the XBLA games that are releasing this year? I could easily name double the amount of  exclusive arcade games this year compared to PSN. Not taking anything away from PSN, but MS really has arcade games of lock down.  



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S.T.A.G.E. on 21 January 2012
Jay520 said:
Yeah, gamers, AKA, humans that play games.

And I didn't say all gamers. I said the majority of gamers. Most of them simply play games. They don't care if the game is available on another console or not. That's not going to hamper their enjoyment of the game.


Of course a gamer who plays games care. Casuals (whom are the majority) obviously not.



S.T.A.G.E. on 21 January 2012
pezus said:
Ajescent said:
I remember the good old days when the argument was the ps3 has no gaemz and lists where used to prove this point time and time again...how times have changed.

And now lists are dismissed and we're talking in "real world" terms


That was a pretty bad year and a half of having few exclusive games for Sony. Welp....still better than two years of being short of games.



sales2099 on 21 January 2012
pezus said:
Ajescent said:
I remember the good old days when the argument was the ps3 has no gaemz and lists where used to prove this point time and time again...how times have changed.

And now lists are dismissed and we're talking in "real world" terms


Thats right. Good thing we can evolve over time our views and beliefs. Lets stick with one mentality forever.....cause thats worked well in human history lol. 

But in all seriousness 360 has more quality games per year then PS3, once you include XBLA and PSN.

But then we get the budget racists and downloadable prejudice PS3 gamers that stick to their lists of retail exclusives they dont even buy. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

S.T.A.G.E. on 21 January 2012
sales2099 said:
pezus said:
Ajescent said:
I remember the good old days when the argument was the ps3 has no gaemz and lists where used to prove this point time and time again...how times have changed.

And now lists are dismissed and we're talking in "real world" terms


Thats right. Good thing we can evolve over time our views and beliefs. Lets stick with one mentality forever.....cause thats worked well in human history lol. 

But in all seriousness 360 has more quality games per year then PS3, once you include XBLA and PSN.

But then we get the budget racists and downloadable prejudice PS3 gamers that stick to their lists of retail exclusives they dont even buy. 


XBLA AND PSN are pretty much even now.



sales2099 on 21 January 2012
pezus said:
sales2099 said:
Slimebeast said:

Comparison of hardcore exclusives that are relevant for the future, meaning they are expected to get sequels
(motion controlled, cartoon-style, racing/sports and downloadable games are left out):

God of War
Uncharted
Killzone
ICO
Last Story
Starhawk
SOCUM
Lil Big People
Infamos
Twisted Metal
Dust 514
Valkyrie Chronicles
The studio who makes Heavy Rain


Halo
Gears
Fable
Crackdud
Alan Wake

Let's be honest here, MS needs to do much more for the hardcore gamer.

Hmm. Counting last gen IPs (ICO especially lol), counting games from since PS3 launch to games not even out yet....by comparison not including exclusives from 360s launch till present, including 360/PC titles (not on PS3, thus relevant). Also neglecting all 360s AAA XBLA titles. 

Lets be honest here, there be MS hating here. 

He probably meant Team Ico IPs, not ICO itself. 360/PC are not relevant in an exclusives discussion, please stop trying to make it so.


Just saying this is a 360 vs PS3 discussion.  a 360/pc game is still a 360 title NOT available on PS3. If someone were in the market for either one, that title could very well play a factor in the purchase.

To say "but I can just play it on PC" doesnt take into account that maybe the customer is only interested in console gaming, and it also suggests that PS3 cant satisfy your gamer needs by itself....yet 360 can :)

Id say its relevant in a strict 360/ps3 discussion. PS3 gamers still stick to their exclusives crutch out of fear it seems after all these years. Its like 360 gamers are the real gamers cause they love everything and PS3 gamers only like exclusives, writing off everything else as trash just cause its a multiplat. Whos the real gamer of the two?



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.