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sales2099 on 18 January 2012
Ajescent said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
youarebadatgames said:
maverick40 said:
Wow what a waste of money. My bluetooth headset can do the exact same thing.


Take your headset out of your ear and put it across the room and see how good the voice recognition is now.

Why would you do that...? Surely the whole point of a headset is...you wear it...on your head....no?

I am sure you are aiming to show the strengths of Kinect by your arguement but I feel it's just creating problems where there aren't any.

Ok buddy. The kinect hate train stops here. 

You claim we can do this with headsets. Cool story. People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier. Also its headset free, as you dont have to put on a physical accessory to play games. Thats another plus of kinect. 

Also, if you can do this with a headset or not is irrelevant......as I dont see headset functionality with the PS3. So dont discuss hypotheticals unless its relevant. 

This finctionality is OPTIONAL, an experiment. So I dont understand these complaints.

Seems the obvious reason for these complaints is that this is a 360 exclusive feature and the convienence of not using the power wheel, hence having completely uninteruppted gameplay on the 360 version, gives it a clear edge on the PS3 version.

This thus breeds sensitivity. If your a PS3 loyal, just let it out there and be yourself. Dont hide. 

At what time did I mention the ps3?

Why does everyone assume that if a person has a complaint about something they are obviously a fanboy of the counterpart.

I've been championing Kinect since Day One so you can go suck on a lemon right there.

I'm a fan of Kinect but I don't feel using it for voice work is gonna be as "tough" to implement as they are making it out to be (considering Mattick already said the voice stuff would have worked just as well with a headset). But considering they are talking about motion stuff as well, that changes things.

I'm a fan of the PS3 yes, but that has nothing to do with my skepticism,  at no time did I mention the ps3 or whatever. If this was a 360 exclusive GAME not even FEATURE I would be saying the same thing.

If the Kinect was on the ps3 and the tables were turned, I would be saying the same thing the fact that you are so quick to call "fanboy" raises questions about your standpoint so chillout.


Just saying more often the not a complaint about Kinect and 360 has some underlying bias towards its biggest rival. You claim to be an exception the so be it. 

However the fact remains that this functionality is headset free, optional, and works really well according to the impressions. 

There is absolutely no reason to complain given those 3 points. And yet here we are. 

So in summary: stating a negative opinion about something however slight is a mark of fanboyism?  Then fuck it, I'm a fanboy and so is everyone else on here. 

There are degrees of loyalty and bias. Some have greater degrees then others. Bias is human. 

"However the fact remains that this functionality is headset free, optional, and works really well according to the impressions. There is absolutely no reason to complain given those 3 points. And yet here we are"

You still didnt address that. :)



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Rainbird on 18 January 2012
pezus said:

Is it really no effort for Kinect? Bioware are talented developers, I doubt they'd struggle with a few voice commands.

I'm not a big expert on how voice recognition is done, so I can't tell you just how difficult it would actually be. But think of it this way:

PC gamers have had microphones as standard equipment for many years, and yet very few games utilize voice recognition on the PC. The same goes for the 360 where every user has a microphone, yet few games have utilized it. In fact, it's not until Kinect came around that voice commands started becoming normal in games. Combine that with the statements from BioWare that said Kinect is making it much easier.

Make of it what you will.



Rainbird on 18 January 2012
Ajescent said:

I'm a fan of Kinect but I don't feel using it for voice work is gonna be as "tough" to implement as they are making it out to be (considering Mattick already said the voice stuff would have worked just as well with a headset). But considering they are talking about motion stuff as well, that changes things.

See my above response to pezus.



osamanobama on 18 January 2012
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
youarebadatgames said:
maverick40 said:
Wow what a waste of money. My bluetooth headset can do the exact same thing.


Take your headset out of your ear and put it across the room and see how good the voice recognition is now.

Why would you do that...? Surely the whole point of a headset is...you wear it...on your head....no?

I am sure you are aiming to show the strengths of Kinect by your arguement but I feel it's just creating problems where there aren't any.

Ok buddy. The kinect hate train stops here. 

You claim we can do this with headsets. Cool story. People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier. Also its headset free, as you dont have to put on a physical accessory to play games. Thats another plus of kinect. 

Also, if you can do this with a headset or not is irrelevant......as I dont see headset functionality with the PS3. So dont discuss hypotheticals unless its relevant. 

This finctionality is OPTIONAL, an experiment. So I dont understand these complaints.

Seems the obvious reason for these complaints is that this is a 360 exclusive feature and the convienence of not using the power wheel, hence having completely uninteruppted gameplay on the 360 version, gives it a clear edge on the PS3 version.

This thus breeds sensitivity. If your a PS3 loyal, just let it out there and be yourself. Dont hide. 

At what time did I mention the ps3?

Why does everyone assume that if a person has a complaint about something they are obviously a fanboy of the counterpart.

I've been championing Kinect since Day One so you can go suck on a lemon right there.

I'm a fan of Kinect but I don't feel using it for voice work is gonna be as "tough" to implement as they are making it out to be (considering Mattick already said the voice stuff would have worked just as well with a headset). But considering they are talking about motion stuff as well, that changes things.

I'm a fan of the PS3 yes, but that has nothing to do with my skepticism,  at no time did I mention the ps3 or whatever. If this was a 360 exclusive GAME not even FEATURE I would be saying the same thing.

If the Kinect was on the ps3 and the tables were turned, I would be saying the same thing the fact that you are so quick to call "fanboy" raises questions about your standpoint so chillout.


Just saying more often the not a complaint about Kinect and 360 has some underlying bias towards its biggest rival. You claim to be an exception the so be it. 

However the fact remains that this functionality is headset free, optional, and works really well according to the impressions. 

There is absolutely no reason to complain given those 3 points. And yet here we are. 

im pretty sure he's complaining that this optional feature, is not available on all platforms, that it is kinect exclusive. When it could be on all platforms with ease and minimal effort. Yes they would have to put in a little extra effort for standard mics, but not much, as simple scripted voice commends are NOT hard to implement. furthermore there are numerous headset free mics, so thats moot. 

i dont see anything in his posts that would lead someone to believe he is complaining about this being a headset free option. Just that its not an option for all when it easily could be. and since the controller will be more acurate, responsive, and quick, i doubt even you will care about this feature.



o_O.Q on 18 January 2012
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
youarebadatgames said:
maverick40 said:
Wow what a waste of money. My bluetooth headset can do the exact same thing.


Take your headset out of your ear and put it across the room and see how good the voice recognition is now.

Why would you do that...? Surely the whole point of a headset is...you wear it...on your head....no?

I am sure you are aiming to show the strengths of Kinect by your arguement but I feel it's just creating problems where there aren't any.

Ok buddy. The kinect hate train stops here. 

You claim we can do this with headsets. Cool story. People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier. Also its headset free, as you dont have to put on a physical accessory to play games. Thats another plus of kinect. 

Also, if you can do this with a headset or not is irrelevant......as I dont see headset functionality with the PS3. So dont discuss hypotheticals unless its relevant. 

This finctionality is OPTIONAL, an experiment. So I dont understand these complaints.

Seems the obvious reason for these complaints is that this is a 360 exclusive feature and the convienence of not using the power wheel, hence having completely uninteruppted gameplay on the 360 version, gives it a clear edge on the PS3 version.

This thus breeds sensitivity. If your a PS3 loyal, just let it out there and be yourself. Dont hide. 

"I dont see headset functionality with the PS3"

the ps3 doesn't support headsets now?


"People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier"

um that it makes implementation easier may very well be the case but regardless it should be obvious to anyone with common sense that any console equiped with a microphone and software to recognise voice commands can be capable of this kind of feature 

here is the ps3 responding to voice commands long before kinect was launched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

all that is required is for the game to have the voice recognition software incorporated

the only reason we aren't seeing more games with this feature across all of the consoles is that at this point in time microsoft is the only one focused on implementing this in games

 

"Seems the obvious reason for these complaints"

he wasn't complaining he was questioning the stupidity of yourbadatgames saying that a headset should be used away from your head... but somehow you see no issue with that right?... that you got so riled up by that shows who's truly sensitive here



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Rainbird on 18 January 2012
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Rainbird said:

PC gamers have had microphones as standard equipment for many years, and yet very few games utilize voice recognition on the PC. The same goes for the 360 where every user has a microphone, yet few games have utilized it. In fact, it's not until Kinect came around that voice commands started becoming normal in games. Combine that with the statements from BioWare that said Kinect is making it much easier.

Make of it what you will.

maibe because no one cares about it ?

i think it could be cool to control your squadmates only , other than that i dont see the point in it.

Maybe you'd care about it, if more ways of using it had been explored. It could be that we had found some gameplay where voice commands are really good to have. That's why games like Mass Effect 3 are experimenting with the feature. So we can find more exciting ways to play.

Either way, voice recognition is here to stay. Just look at smartphones and where they're headed with voice commands.



sales2099 on 18 January 2012
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
youarebadatgames said:
maverick40 said:
Wow what a waste of money. My bluetooth headset can do the exact same thing.


Take your headset out of your ear and put it across the room and see how good the voice recognition is now.

Why would you do that...? Surely the whole point of a headset is...you wear it...on your head....no?

I am sure you are aiming to show the strengths of Kinect by your arguement but I feel it's just creating problems where there aren't any.

Ok buddy. The kinect hate train stops here. 

You claim we can do this with headsets. Cool story. People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier. Also its headset free, as you dont have to put on a physical accessory to play games. Thats another plus of kinect. 

Also, if you can do this with a headset or not is irrelevant......as I dont see headset functionality with the PS3. So dont discuss hypotheticals unless its relevant. 

This finctionality is OPTIONAL, an experiment. So I dont understand these complaints.

Seems the obvious reason for these complaints is that this is a 360 exclusive feature and the convienence of not using the power wheel, hence having completely uninteruppted gameplay on the 360 version, gives it a clear edge on the PS3 version.

This thus breeds sensitivity. If your a PS3 loyal, just let it out there and be yourself. Dont hide. 

"I dont see headset functionality with the PS3"

the ps3 doesn't support headsets now?


"People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier"

um that it makes implementation easier may very well be the case but regardless it should be obvious to anyone with common that any console equiped with a microphone and software to recognise voice commands can be capable of this kind of feature 

here is the ps3 responding to voice commands long before kinect was launched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

all that is required is for the game to have the voice recognition software incorporated

the only reason we aren't seeing more games with this feature across all of the consoles is that at this point in time microsoft is the only one focused on implementing this in games

 

"Seems the obvious reason for these complaints"

he wasn't complaining he was questioning the stupidity of yourbadatgames saying that a headset should be used away from your head... but somehow you see no issue with that right?... that you got so riled up by that shows who's truly sensitive here

Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality. 

So really all I see is excuses. On paper and in-therory. FACT is kinect is easier and only the 360 version has it, which seems to positively contribute to gameplay. 

Its clear this guy is complaining about kinect when its optional, headset free, and contributes nicely to gameplay. He still hasnt responded to my latest retort (positive he has seen it) and the window has thus closed. Fact remains with those 3 points there was absolutely NO reason to complain....unless one has bias. 

I am not sensitive, merely responding to sensitivity. 



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PureDante on 18 January 2012
Panama said:
This is so revolutionary that Socom 2 did it last generation. Shephard do something that I can easily do by pressing the A button. Totally worth it.


Damnit, was just about to bash this video with socom nostalgia lol. 



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 18 January 2012

All this fuss over a voice command feature....

Lol, maybe Kinect just makes it easier for developers to implement voice commands on games as compared to standard headsets...

Maybe its in the hardware. Since kinect came out. Ive seen a heap of increase in game that use voice command. DC2, Halo CEA, Kinect Sports Season 2, etc.

I even use my Kinect as a headset to play with friends in BF3. Although they say that I sound like im playing in a bathroom whenever I speak.



Yay!!!

o_O.Q on 18 January 2012
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
youarebadatgames said:
maverick40 said:
Wow what a waste of money. My bluetooth headset can do the exact same thing.


Take your headset out of your ear and put it across the room and see how good the voice recognition is now.

Why would you do that...? Surely the whole point of a headset is...you wear it...on your head....no?

I am sure you are aiming to show the strengths of Kinect by your arguement but I feel it's just creating problems where there aren't any.

Ok buddy. The kinect hate train stops here. 

You claim we can do this with headsets. Cool story. People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier. Also its headset free, as you dont have to put on a physical accessory to play games. Thats another plus of kinect. 

Also, if you can do this with a headset or not is irrelevant......as I dont see headset functionality with the PS3. So dont discuss hypotheticals unless its relevant. 

This finctionality is OPTIONAL, an experiment. So I dont understand these complaints.

Seems the obvious reason for these complaints is that this is a 360 exclusive feature and the convienence of not using the power wheel, hence having completely uninteruppted gameplay on the 360 version, gives it a clear edge on the PS3 version.

This thus breeds sensitivity. If your a PS3 loyal, just let it out there and be yourself. Dont hide. 

"I dont see headset functionality with the PS3"

the ps3 doesn't support headsets now?


"People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier"

um that it makes implementation easier may very well be the case but regardless it should be obvious to anyone with common that any console equiped with a microphone and software to recognise voice commands can be capable of this kind of feature 

here is the ps3 responding to voice commands long before kinect was launched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

all that is required is for the game to have the voice recognition software incorporated

the only reason we aren't seeing more games with this feature across all of the consoles is that at this point in time microsoft is the only one focused on implementing this in games

 

"Seems the obvious reason for these complaints"

he wasn't complaining he was questioning the stupidity of yourbadatgames saying that a headset should be used away from your head... but somehow you see no issue with that right?... that you got so riled up by that shows who's truly sensitive here

Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality. 

So really all I see is excuses. On paper and in-therory. FACT is kinect is easier and only the 360 version has it, which seems to positively contribute to gameplay. 

Its clear this guy is complaining about kinect when its optional, headset free, and contributes nicely to gameplay. He still hasnt responded to my latest retort (positive he has seen it) and the window has thus closed. Fact remains with those 3 points there was absolutely NO reason to complain....unless one has bias. 

I am not sensitive, merely responding to sensitivity. 

"Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality."

lol its ironic that you'd say that, but i'm sorry for misinterpretating you

 

"there was absolutely NO reason to complain"

is he not allowed to have a different impression of the feature than you?

this is written in your sig

"A forum is a medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, not a drum circle where everybody agrees with how awesome the subject matter is"

doesn't that apply to this topic too? or is it only applicable outside of microsoft topics?

the funny thing in all of this is that i just realised that he wasn't even complaining, all he was doing was questioning whether kinect was required for a feature like this

it obviously isn't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

"still calling Bullshit on this, on the grounds that headsets exists"

"Seeing as I can do voice work with my 1998 headset that came with my teach yourself GCSE French, I think it's safe to say Kinect is not the kingpin on this front."

where in his post do you see complaining?

 

"I am not sensitive"

we must have different definitions for the word then imo