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Forums - Sales Discussion - NPD Dec: X360 #1, 1.7m, 900k - 1m Wii, PS3

haxxiy on 12 January 2012

This kinda reminds me of the "stuffing the channel" thing we saw with Ps3 a few years back, only in reverse...

Funny things is that until a few hours ago it went like "hey, MS have won holidays because Sony's strongholds are countries in economical trouble" ad now the spin goes more like "hey, Europe isn't so bad, and who knows, the X360 could suddenly have become big there".



 

 

 

 

 

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D-Joe on 12 January 2012
Jadedx said:
D-Joe said:
why people think it's undertraked in Europe but not MEA,i mean China have 620k 360 when end of 2008

China, or Hong Kong? I don't remember them launching in the rest of china.

 

Also, I asked this in another thread but never got an answer, wasn't MS supposed to launch xbox in more regions this year?

China,but most import from Hong Kong(and some other countrys like Taiwan/Japan/Korea)



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ethomaz on 12 January 2012
pezus said:
Lucas-Rio said:
forest-spirit said:
ethomaz said:
forest-spirit said:

So Wii is at most 860k and PS3 is at most 900k. Wow...

860k is last month... this month is more like a little over 1m for Wii.


But the report said that DS and 3DS were the only consoles to see MoM growth. That puts the Wii at 860k or less.

It conflicts M$ 46%

Indeed, wtf is going on? Maybe they were talking about avg. weekly sales

Seems like...

“Hardware was particularly hard hit in December. Normally, we see sales increase from November to December on an average sales per week basis (keeping in mind December is a 5-week retail month as compared to November which is a 4-week retail month). The 3DS and the DS were the only platforms to realize a unit sales increase versus November, which is highly unusual since typically all platforms enjoy a lift in the biggest month at retail.” 



Carl on 12 January 2012

Hilarious. Knew those earlier adjustments were pointless.



                            

Lucas-Rio on 12 January 2012
ethomaz said:
pezus said:
Lucas-Rio said:
forest-spirit said:
ethomaz said:
forest-spirit said:

So Wii is at most 860k and PS3 is at most 900k. Wow...

860k is last month... this month is more like a little over 1m for Wii.


But the report said that DS and 3DS were the only consoles to see MoM growth. That puts the Wii at 860k or less.

It conflicts M$ 46%

Indeed, wtf is going on? Maybe they were talking about avg. weekly sales

Seems like...

“Hardware was particularly hard hit in December. Normally, we see sales increase from November to December on an average sales per week basis (keeping in mind December is a 5-week retail month as compared to November which is a 4-week retail month). The 3DS and the DS were the only platforms to realize a unit sales increase versus November, which is highly unusual since typically all platforms enjoy a lift in the biggest month at retail.” 


Crazy people who still buy DS when 3DS is around the same price and fully retro.

Good for Nintendo pockets, bad for 3DS install base.



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crissindahouse on 12 January 2012
pezus said:
Jexy said:
crissindahouse said:
Jexy said:
 

Europe's economy is way worse than the States, so really, its the two major territories for gaming.  People can talk about the Yen being a problem, but for consumers it's great.  It means their money buys more stuff for less.  But from what I heard, people were more apt to buy one big thing and a few little things this year, as in, maybe a 360 for one kid, and an ipod for another, etc... instead of everyone getting a game console or a TV etc.  Cost of living around the world continues to rise, yet wages fall.

depends how you look at it. there are some shitty countries but many are very good as well. it's just when one ore two contries are shit (greece, italy, spain) than the euro is fucked and it looks like whole europes economy is bad but that's no true germany's for example is very good atm but still our euro here in germany is fucked^^

i really have the feeling seeing americans talking about europe you see us more as one than we europeans do and should see us. it's sad but theres much hate atm between some countries we are really not "one europe" like we should be

Well the Euro wasn't the best idea ever really... they've already broken all the rules they said they were never to break (loaning out money to crap countries) and think about it, in just a decade, in just a part of our lifetimes, the Euro was invented and already falling apart.  Germany is the only country that doesn't suck that is part of the Euro.  Even France is getting downgraded.  Germany alone cannot hold up all of Europe.  They don't even like their position as they have rejected many of the suggestions the other weaker countries have made (aka please empty your banks Germany). 

But yes, as an economy, we see Europe as one now because of the Euro.  The English speaking countries we kind of see as seperate, since they are in many ways with the land divide, non Euro, etc.  The one Europe thing is a great idea, but most Europeans would rather combine their might in spite of the USA, rather than for themselves.  Hence why they all have their own agendas and why most financial analysts don't think the Euro will recover well. 

Also, keep in mind, unemployment in a bad USA economy is the norm for a good Euro economy.  Euro countries always have high unenployment even when things are "good" but now, unenomployment is so bad in most Euro countries, its more than double, and in same cases, triple, even quadruple what it is here in USA.  I think things will get worse for both America and Europe in the next few months, since all that "holiday" hiring was smoke and mirrors.  Also, a totally united Europe is difficult when you include countries that are barely first world. 

Europe doesn't only have the Euro, you know

@ jexy

you should know that you count unemloyement different than others. if you would count it like we do you would have more as well. it's just a different system to count in different countries (no clue read this somewhere few years ago)

and you really see it worse than it is (and btw in europe we all hate moodys etc. because they insta downgrade european countries but not the usa). yes there are some fucked countires but most aren't. the euro is a problem and could be a huge for most countries but the economy itself is very good in most european countires compared to their situation let's say 10 years ago.

it's just so stupid that moodys and the others ones all come from usa how can this be fair?



Argh_College on 12 January 2012

i have to say those sales are pretty damn terrible, i mean ps3 didnt even make 1m... thats as sad as it can get. 360 below 2M lool

Next Gen is coming next years guys, with this sales MS sure wants to launch the nextbox as quick as it can.



Adinnieken on 12 January 2012
Seece said:

Yeah, puts everything in a different perspective, time for new consoles!

idk...Microsoft has room for a big price drop.  They could easily cut the price of each Kinect bundle by $100 without sacrificing profits.  Then drop the price of the stand alone consoles $50 each.  Would it help Sony or Nintendo, probably only marginally, but it might.  Price drops for some reason seem to stimulate the entire sector.  So it couldn't hurt things.



Jexy on 12 January 2012
pezus said:
Jexy said:


Just most of the largest countries that matter in a global economy do.  So it doesn't matter.

http://www.aph.com/news/knowbeforeyougo/euro_countries.shtml 

Thank you for proving my point.  All of the largest economies use the euro besides the UK, which we already esablished does not.



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Nsanity on 12 January 2012
pezus said:
Now I really wonder what MS meant with "66m sold". We know there's no way that's sold to consumers now, and I really really doubt 360 outdid the PS3 in Europe/Asia. WTF - I'm shocked all around

Yeah, becuse NPD = The World!