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pezus said:
Jexy said:
crissindahouse said:
Jexy said:
 

Europe's economy is way worse than the States, so really, its the two major territories for gaming.  People can talk about the Yen being a problem, but for consumers it's great.  It means their money buys more stuff for less.  But from what I heard, people were more apt to buy one big thing and a few little things this year, as in, maybe a 360 for one kid, and an ipod for another, etc... instead of everyone getting a game console or a TV etc.  Cost of living around the world continues to rise, yet wages fall.

depends how you look at it. there are some shitty countries but many are very good as well. it's just when one ore two contries are shit (greece, italy, spain) than the euro is fucked and it looks like whole europes economy is bad but that's no true germany's for example is very good atm but still our euro here in germany is fucked^^

i really have the feeling seeing americans talking about europe you see us more as one than we europeans do and should see us. it's sad but theres much hate atm between some countries we are really not "one europe" like we should be

Well the Euro wasn't the best idea ever really... they've already broken all the rules they said they were never to break (loaning out money to crap countries) and think about it, in just a decade, in just a part of our lifetimes, the Euro was invented and already falling apart.  Germany is the only country that doesn't suck that is part of the Euro.  Even France is getting downgraded.  Germany alone cannot hold up all of Europe.  They don't even like their position as they have rejected many of the suggestions the other weaker countries have made (aka please empty your banks Germany). 

But yes, as an economy, we see Europe as one now because of the Euro.  The English speaking countries we kind of see as seperate, since they are in many ways with the land divide, non Euro, etc.  The one Europe thing is a great idea, but most Europeans would rather combine their might in spite of the USA, rather than for themselves.  Hence why they all have their own agendas and why most financial analysts don't think the Euro will recover well. 

Also, keep in mind, unemployment in a bad USA economy is the norm for a good Euro economy.  Euro countries always have high unenployment even when things are "good" but now, unenomployment is so bad in most Euro countries, its more than double, and in same cases, triple, even quadruple what it is here in USA.  I think things will get worse for both America and Europe in the next few months, since all that "holiday" hiring was smoke and mirrors.  Also, a totally united Europe is difficult when you include countries that are barely first world. 

Europe doesn't only have the Euro, you know

@ jexy

you should know that you count unemloyement different than others. if you would count it like we do you would have more as well. it's just a different system to count in different countries (no clue read this somewhere few years ago)

and you really see it worse than it is (and btw in europe we all hate moodys etc. because they insta downgrade european countries but not the usa). yes there are some fucked countires but most aren't. the euro is a problem and could be a huge for most countries but the economy itself is very good in most european countires compared to their situation let's say 10 years ago.

it's just so stupid that moodys and the others ones all come from usa how can this be fair?