the war has already been going for some time.

But you would agree that war is destroying us financially, right?  Many independents want no part of any war with any country in the middle east or any where else for that matter.  Most independents want us to mind our own business.  If Iran invades a foreign country, then war it is, but Iran won't do that. 

How do you come to this conclusion?

I agree than when Obama talks publically about Iran and a possible war on Iran, he sounds pretty much the same as most republican candidates.

But my impression is that those words are mainly PR and that behind the curtain Obama is actually clearly against attacking Iran. For example, as far as I know, Obama's foreign policy is heavily influenced by america's geostrategical mastermind Brzezinski, and it is known that Brzezinski is strictly against attacking Iran, going as far as suggesting the USA should shoot down israeli warplanes if they were about to attack Iran.

All the Republican candidates (apart from Paul) are saying that America should have attacked Iran over the drone which they lost while spying on them.

Doesn't matter if it's popular, invading Iran would be rather stupid, especially when there is a decent chance the pro-democracy movement in Iran could take over when the next election is rigged.

Well do not assume Obama is a War Hawk.

What Obama is doing with calling in drone strikes and such is using the vastly increased Presidential Powers after 9/11 when it comes to National Security and War.

I think he likes that part of the job lol...

I never said it'd be smart to invade Iran.  Or even go to war with Iran, which isn't the same thing as invading it.

I base it on his great expansion to the "Global War on Terror". 

I mean, he took the occasional breaching of Pakistan's soverinty and turned it into a hobby.

I mean look at this.  It's ridiculious

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan#2010

That it took Pakistan so long to publicly blow up at us is freaking amazing.

Obama clearly ain't afraid to bomb a country if something is going on within the country he doesn't like... let ALONE bomb a country ACTIVLY doing something we don't like.

I think this gets GREATLY understated because republicans are trying to convince their base that Obama isn't doing enough on the war on terror, when the reality is... he's GREATLY expanded what bush was doing.

To bring it back to Ron Paul.  He and Dennis Kusnich actually tried last year to get a vote to withrdaw from Pakistan.

I wonder if Dennis! would consider running as Vice President if Paul ran as an Independent.

Probably not, but it'd be cool since he seems likely to lose his district and doesn't want to fight a fellow Democrat for it.   (Which is a shame, I really like Dennis Kusnich.  Voted for him more then once.)

He's one of maybe.... 3 politicains who tells it how he see's it most of the time.  For example, suggesting Obama should be put on trial for an impeachment after invading Libya... one of the few people who stayed true to the "Bush should be impeached" point of view.

He and Paul would balance each other out nicely on some of the issues.

I was just saying that Obama (who hasn't gone to war with Iran over the drone) is less of a warmonger than most of the Republican field who say that he should have.

I agree with what he says, because I'm exactly the type of person he's talking about

You have to remember those Republicans who have been calling more more aggressive actions are just doing that because they are either on the campaign trail or not in power or both and the consequences of what they are saying is small. As President they would have a lot of options to weigh up before committing to any actions and must accept any potential consequences from the resulting fallout. And as Kaz has correctly pointed out Obama has sharply escalated the 'war on terror'.  Bush Jr may have had suspects kidnapped and interrogated using 'enhanced' interrogation techniques (i.e torture) but Obama doesn't even bother with that. He'd just not take any chances and send it in a drone strike which has killed way more civilians than suspected millitants.