?????? "And its more like 9 million in terms of revenue" - are you that dense?

We all can read the financial reports and see that Sony, as a company, is in the red. What does this have to do with the fact that Move, as a device, is profitable on the manufacturing level, but probably not (yet) on the production level?

And here is a little surprise for you: the Kinect device is exactly on the same path as the Move device: profitable on the manufacturing level, not (yet) profitable on the production level.

disregard post.

Well, considering that they compare recent Move numbers to Kinect numbers from March it would had been awful for Move if the gap had increased...

Why does every gaming site always screw up sales articles?

Shane Satterfield on Invisible Walls: Uncharted has never sold too well.

Im afraid Move isn't profitable on any level.....

MS on the other hand said that Kinect is sold at a profit, and MS actually posts profits in their quarterly earnings :)

Sorry, I guess the fact that I'm discussing with the one guy on vgchartz who even has a Kinect sales tracker in his signature, currently mentioning a very concrete number of 10,847,895 units, falsely made me believe we actually DO have SOME IDEA of Kinect sales.

I still wonder why everyone including ioi is estimating the actual PS Move install base though, when obviously you have magic data that leaves absolutely no doubt about it...

Seriously. While the sales numbers that sites like vgchartz track may not be 100% accurate, they are definitely accurate enough to see that the bottom line is perfectly valid.

i may be wrong here but as far as i know sony's gaming division is profitable while microsoft's gaming division is still in the red but obviously with sales, xbox live etc they are rapidly reversing that

and btw the other guy was right peripherals ( move, kinect etc are usually sold as a profit ) "I dont know if you follow Sony financials" yes... as a whole not the gaming division...

Sony said at GDC that it was 8.3 million. 

http://uk.gamespot.com/ps3/hardware/playstation-3/news/6339626/ps-move-shipments-total-83-million

He was using outdated numbers.  It's not the first time someone at Sony has done so.  Actually, if memory serves me right, you made an article when someone used old PS3 numbers trying to claim the PS3 was overtracked, but were corrected.

@ Seece

While I don't see it possible for MS to ship an extra 8-10 million Kinects in the 4th quarter (not with it having less interest in all regions, especially EMEAA and Japan, compared to last year), but I wish you good luck in that prediction.

I don't know what is worse...the article or the fools that actually believe it. Lets do some real numbers, money unique users sits at around 6 million right now and kinect sits at around 12 million in current sales. Can someone change the article to a more accurate title of "kinect sales gap continues to grow."

Seriously the article was embarrassing but the acceptance by the users on this site is even worse.