Seece said:
Mr Khan said:
Seece said:
Mr Khan said:
crissindahouse said:
since i never crack games or movies it's good for me in one case. that would mean more money for the companies because people have to buy then instead of clicking the downlaod button. maybe ea willl get in the black then and don't have to fire like 500 more employees.
if it would only affect those things i wouldn't have a problem. no music videos on youtube? i could live with that as well i don't really need them only the music and i buy all music i really like.
but i have a feeling this will work not as good a s i hope and that this would be one more step to a world in many movies like equilibrium shown.
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We have to nip this in the bud now. This bill is an absolute bad, and will not increase revenue that anyone receives, and will instead kill jobs. A lot of websites will go out of business if this becomes law, a lot of foreign websites will lose tons of ad revenue, and the gains made will be miniscule. Pirates do not become paying customers
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Rubbish, you have no proof what people will do if they can't pirate something. It's wrong to assume they'll all go out and pay for games (or anything else), but it's just as wrong to assume they'll give up entirely.
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More accurate to say that if pirates do become paying customers, that it becomes a wash economically. You don't generate money from nothing, and its not like these people who might be consuming certain intellectual properties are sitting on the money that they would be spending, but it is generally acknowledged in economics that a good deal of piracy comes from customers who you are priced too high to access in the first place.
The alternate point is that companies could choose to meet such people in the middle through lower-cost (e.g. ad-supported), but they choose instead to whine to governments and continue to play their games of junk economics
Read HappySquirrel's comment on it in the thread i made, he states it more clearly
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No, anti anti piracy people bend the argument anyway they can to justify it. Music and Dvd's I find hard to believe priced out of many people's price range, least of all the majority, I flat out don't believe that. For games there is used and renting, which is better than pirating. At the the of the day that excuse is whack.
In terms of generating money, you're right, middle to majority of people only have a certain amount to spend and if they are forced to buy a movie insted of pirating, then they have to give something else up (not ALL, there are people with a lot of disposable cash left over at the end of the month, and they pirate not because they can't afford the product, but because they can.)
However, this is why the games, movies and the music industry people are pushing these piracy laws, and making the government listen, because for that middle/majority of people that would sacrafice spending elsewhere to buy a movie of game, you're assuming they're sacraficing something of the same, wheras it could be a takeaway, or clothes, or something else entirely irrlevent to whoever is fighting for this.
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Yeah you can rent/buy used, but with the online passes becoming a trend, it just means that a) Since you don't have the money to buy the full game, you are left out with a big portion of the game(Uncharted 3's multiplayer, Batman: Arkham City's catwoman SP) or b) You are forced to pay even more money to access these features if you want the full experience. Further, when you rent, you would not wanna buy this pass (assuming rent games come without a pass) cause you'll only have it for a set amount of time. Even further more, buying used games would probably become the norm for gamers on a budget and more developers and companies will bitch of lost revenue (whether they are right or wrong on the issue is another point). Sounds like an endless cycle to me.
Censorship is not the answer to piracy. I'm sorry if my answers/examples aren't the best but I'm not very knowledgeable on the whole online pass bussiness. These are just my two cents.
