It all depends on how tired Sony and MS are of losing billions of dollars on hardware for the first few years.

This a million times over. MS I can possibly see doing it as they love to just throw money at things. Hoping they can squeeze Sony out of the market maybe. However even then I would question their sanity. 

If Sony go for another mega-powerful console? I would put in a request that their entire management be sectioned. As a whole the company is losing money insanely fast. The PS3 was an utter disaster for profits and the Vita is currently in VERY bad shape. If they went with a very powerful console they had to take a loss on it would be madness. Just take that extra year and the reduction in costs it brings to parts and bring out a moderate upgrade power wise to the Wii U.

yes my bad I forgot you ment in 1983 like PS1 and PS2 were most powerfull in 1994 and 2000 respectively.

That APU is fine, it can easily be modified to be faster and the extra GPU will be a little helpful.

I would like an upgraded GPU though, a 7670 seems way too weak. If they're going with amd a 7850 would be great.

It probably won't matter for the first three years, at least with 3rd party multiplat games. They will probably make the game work for the weakest system and port to the others.

Good luck with that turd of an APU that already has a TDP of 100W at 2.9GHz.

It is really quite simple. 4-5 years ago, the three manufacturers had to decide on their design choices. Nintendo and MS went with IBM's Power line (which for MS was a logical choice). Sony was in the worst position of the lot. They had their proprietary solution which ran against a wall with their co-developers. So what to do? Around that time, AMD came along and hyped their new processor technology as the best there could ever be. The demonstrations (on paper) must have been convincing, so at Sonys development circle they believed the hype train (if we are to believe the rumoured specs) - and the catastrophy started rolling: Three years later now we see how AMD's 8core wonder design processor barely keeps pace with Intel's 4core processors, with larger dies, larger TDP and pretty much everything worse than Intel (or an IBM Power processor) can do on the processor side of things. Even a pruced-up original cell could beat the A8 hands down. Now there must be some very unhappy engineers in the PS4 development group. Their choice of processor - again if we are to believe the rumoured specs - is vastly, and I mean really vastly, inferior to the competitors, and they are the last in the NextGen cycle. I wish them good luck, coming last with inferior specs into a race (of now three competitors) fighting essentially for the same console customers.

Ok.

I updated the tables, especially the GPU tables. Far better comparisons and a better idea of what we may see next week. :)

I'd still place the power order, based on available stock data, with XB3>WiiU>PS4... however, the differences between the three should be more similar to PS2/GC/XB generation and thus not a real big difference in what is offered by 3rd parties.

I think in the end Sony may walk away from the Fusion chip. Sony is not stupid and will be watching what its competition is doing. Considering that it is not launching first in the generation, I'd bet it will want to push the hardware a little more to be closer to the perceived neXtBox level.

Updated the GPU info...

How likely do you think Sony would be to have the APU plus the additional 7000 series card? I'm thinking its unlikely due to heat and costs.

I was under the impression that Sony was doing an APU and GPU. If they are only doing the APU they'd be bringing knife to a gun fight.

Chunky: Do you really believe that WiiU will be ore powerful than NextBox?? All the rumors I see seem to say other wise...