Although the 2012 release date is just rumour...i think the motivation behind that is to not give wii U time to gain market share...and to beat Sony out the door again.

I dont think it will happen either, Wii U doesnt look particularly threatening at the moment, so holding out til 2013 is probably best. I also think 360 is gonna have a stellar year 2012 :)

Yeah, they improved it a lot since it was pretty useless in Gears 2.  The Boltok is almost as powerful as it was in Gears 1, when it blew people in half... but they made the Gorgon suck balls.  Incredibly inaccurate in 3, but oh well. 

Yeah, the sawed off wouldn't be a problem if you didn't run 50% faster.  But you're right, still by far the most fun, and there will be more to come. 

Reasonable said: D-Joe said: reason of 324k You do have to wonder what the real sales of mature rated titles would be if the ratings were strictly enforced?  A lot less I suspect.

I think that one could reasonably argue that, although the game has an M rating, the console does not. Therefore, 'twould be difficult to prevent kids from purchasing the bundle, since retailers cannot open and separate sealed products. Those children are probably just holding them boxes while waiting in line, until their parents fork out the cash at checkout.

reviniente said: Reasonable said: D-Joe said: reason of 324k You do have to wonder what the real sales of mature rated titles would be if the ratings were strictly enforced?  A lot less I suspect. I think that one could reasonably argue that, although the game has an M rating, the console does not. Therefore, 'twould be difficult to prevent kids from purchasing the bundle, since retailers cannot open and separate sealed products. Those children are probably just holding them boxes while waiting in line, until their parents fork out the cash at checkout.

I think it's pretty clear those two will be going straight home and playing MW3 (little buggers will probably be better than me too).

I'm not being judgemental, but I'm noting that it's a very real fact that most blockbuster games that are mature rated (Halo, Gears, God of War, etc) all rely on the fact that many of those for whom the titles are bought shouldn't actually be playing them.  As a parent myself I know plenty of kids with mature titles played on consoles bought only for the kids use.

I was also noting it in a pretty lightheated way I thought - I'm not in the club that assumes those two kids will be mass killers in real life before they can shave.

pezus said: KillerMan said: Reasonable said: D-Joe said: reason of 324k You do have to wonder what the real sales of mature rated titles would be if the ratings were strictly enforced?  A lot less I suspect. They kinda are in Europe. It is illegal to sell 18+ rated title to under 18 years old. You can easily bypass this by buying your games from internet though. Not in my country...and there are probably many other European countries where it's not illegal

After I searched little you are right. It has been criminalized only in some countries (like in Finland where I live). I always thought it was norm with PEGI system. Oh well. It's nice to learn new stuff everyday!

Reasonable said: reviniente said: Reasonable said: D-Joe said: reason of 324k You do have to wonder what the real sales of mature rated titles would be if the ratings were strictly enforced?  A lot less I suspect. I think that one could reasonably argue that, although the game has an M rating, the console does not. Therefore, 'twould be difficult to prevent kids from purchasing the bundle, since retailers cannot open and separate sealed products. Those children are probably just holding them boxes while waiting in line, until their parents fork out the cash at checkout. I think it's pretty clear those two will be going straight home and playing MW3 (little buggers will probably be better than me too). I'm not being judgemental, but I'm noting that it's a very real fact that most blockbuster games that are mature rated (Halo, Gears, God of War, etc) all rely on the fact that many of those for whom the titles are bought shouldn't actually be playing them.  As a parent myself I know plenty of kids with mature titles played on consoles bought only for the kids use. I was also noting it in a pretty lightheated way I thought - I'm not in the club that assumes those two kids will be mass killers in real life before they can shave.

They can try to enforce who buys the games but no one, other than the parents themselves, can say who plays them. Well maybe in some contries they can. It is a rather ammusing picture though. And mute is your friend when those two are screaming at you online.

xbox360 before battlefield 115 743
ps3 before battlefield 83 699

xbox360 battlefield week 150 237 (+34494)
ps3 battlefield week 110 540 (+26841)

xbox360 uncharted week 169349 (+19112)
ps3 uncharted week 120688 (+10148)

xbox360 mw3 week 324046 (+154697)
ps3 mw3 week 142 937 (+22249)

So i get from this the ps3 got a bigger boost from battlefield then MW3 (note battlefield sold 960k compared for 2500k for MW3)
Uncharted boost the xbox more then the ps3 which explain why uncharted 4 should be exclusive to the 360
Even with no new sofware on the uncharted week the xbox got a bigger boost then the ps3
and for some reason people think the numbers are normal ??

Well the 360 bump shouldnt be shocking that week I honestly am surprised the 360 jump last week wasnt more. Nearly every major retailer had great deals on 360s that week.

Look at the deals offered that week. All those deals for the 360, none for the Wii and only getting Uncharted 1 and 2 as a bonus for the UC3 bundle.

Best Buy
360 250GB Holiday Bundle includes $50 gift card
PS3 Uncharted 3 bundle includes Uncharted 1 and 2

Now through 11/5/2011 - Amazon matched this
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $100 gift card
360 250GB Kinect Bundle includes $100 gift card

Kmart
360 250GB Holiday Bundle includes $50 gift card
PS3 Uncharted 3 bundle includes Uncharted 1 and 2

Target
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $50 gift card

Amazon 11/2 Only
360 250GB Holiday Bundle includes $50 gift card

Walmart 11/5 Only - Super Saturday
360 250GB Kinect Bundle includes $50 gift card
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $50 gift card

Toys R Us 11/4-11/5
360 250GB Kinect Bundle includes $50 gift card
360 4GB Kinect Bundle includes $50 gift card

Yup.  The "Xbox" brand name is the new "Playstation" here in the states, no doubt about it.

Reasonable said: D-Joe said: reason of 324k You do have to wonder what the real sales of mature rated titles would be if the ratings were strictly enforced?  A lot less I suspect.

You know what, before I was 18 I was turned down for multiple M rated games...

However it was always the niche M rated titles, never GTA or Resident Evil. It was for games like Geist, and Eternal Darkness.

Wish they enforced game rating sales, but then it's like this for Movies and other genres too.

They should put a decibel limit on your mike, so if you don't want to hear high pitched kids screams, you can remove frequencies above that threshold