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Slimebeast on 29 December 2011
UltimateUnknown said:
Slimebeast said:
http://bf3stats.com/

Right now as I write it says total number of players is 192,000 (of which 65,000 are PC players). Isn't that a bit low? I think Halo (in its prime) and COD typically has 4-500,000 players online simultaneously. Can somebody confirm this?

I play MW3 on 360, and there is almost always at least 500,000 people playing the game online at a given time, its normally a lot higher than that during peak times, but thats the bare minimum.

Halo Reach right now tends to have on average of about 100,000 people playing at a given time, but the game is a year old now.

Anyway this is from my personal experience seeing the ingame statistics.

Yeah I thought so! This means that a far higher proportion of MW3 owners (10.6 million copies sold on X360 and like you say, 500,000 play it simultaneously) play the game than BF3 owners play BF3 (4.4 million copies sold on X360 but only 55,000* online right now). The difference is huge! 

* Can bf3stats.com's numbers be trusted though? 55,000 BF3 players online simultaneously on the X360 sounds extremely low.



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NotStan on 29 December 2011

Wow nice site, just found out I am top 2% in Revives per Assault and top 3% in score per minute! Awesomesauce :L

Also

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zarx on 29 December 2011
Slimebeast said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Slimebeast said:
http://bf3stats.com/

Right now as I write it says total number of players is 192,000 (of which 65,000 are PC players). Isn't that a bit low? I think Halo (in its prime) and COD typically has 4-500,000 players online simultaneously. Can somebody confirm this?

I play MW3 on 360, and there is almost always at least 500,000 people playing the game online at a given time, its normally a lot higher than that during peak times, but thats the bare minimum.

Halo Reach right now tends to have on average of about 100,000 people playing at a given time, but the game is a year old now.

Anyway this is from my personal experience seeing the ingame statistics.

Yeah I thought so! This means that a far higher proportion of MW3 owners (10.6 million copies sold on X360 and like you say, 500,000 play it simultaneously) play the game than BF3 owners play BF3 (4.4 million copies sold on X360 but only 55,000* online right now). The difference is huge! 

* Can bf3stats.com's numbers be trusted though? 55,000 BF3 players online simultaneously on the X360 sounds extremely low.

360 is most popular in the USA and it's 5-9 AM there right now, the numbers don't seem that low



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Slimebeast on 29 December 2011
zarx said:
Slimebeast said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Slimebeast said:
http://bf3stats.com/

Right now as I write it says total number of players is 192,000 (of which 65,000 are PC players). Isn't that a bit low? I think Halo (in its prime) and COD typically has 4-500,000 players online simultaneously. Can somebody confirm this?

I play MW3 on 360, and there is almost always at least 500,000 people playing the game online at a given time, its normally a lot higher than that during peak times, but thats the bare minimum.

Halo Reach right now tends to have on average of about 100,000 people playing at a given time, but the game is a year old now.

Anyway this is from my personal experience seeing the ingame statistics.

Yeah I thought so! This means that a far higher proportion of MW3 owners (10.6 million copies sold on X360 and like you say, 500,000 play it simultaneously) play the game than BF3 owners play BF3 (4.4 million copies sold on X360 but only 55,000* online right now). The difference is huge! 

* Can bf3stats.com's numbers be trusted though? 55,000 BF3 players online simultaneously on the X360 sounds extremely low.

360 is most popular in the USA and it's 5-9 AM there right now, the numbers don't seem that low

But it's low compared to MW3. UltimateUnknown says MW3 has 500,000 players minimum.



Barozi on 29 December 2011
zarx said:
Slimebeast said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Slimebeast said:
http://bf3stats.com/

Right now as I write it says total number of players is 192,000 (of which 65,000 are PC players). Isn't that a bit low? I think Halo (in its prime) and COD typically has 4-500,000 players online simultaneously. Can somebody confirm this?

I play MW3 on 360, and there is almost always at least 500,000 people playing the game online at a given time, its normally a lot higher than that during peak times, but thats the bare minimum.

Halo Reach right now tends to have on average of about 100,000 people playing at a given time, but the game is a year old now.

Anyway this is from my personal experience seeing the ingame statistics.

Yeah I thought so! This means that a far higher proportion of MW3 owners (10.6 million copies sold on X360 and like you say, 500,000 play it simultaneously) play the game than BF3 owners play BF3 (4.4 million copies sold on X360 but only 55,000* online right now). The difference is huge! 

* Can bf3stats.com's numbers be trusted though? 55,000 BF3 players online simultaneously on the X360 sounds extremely low.

360 is most popular in the USA and it's 5-9 AM there right now, the numbers don't seem that low

Exactly. There are "only" a bit over 1 million BF3 (X360) owners in Europe. I haven't checked yesterday, so this time I try to check the stats when it's late here so it should be prime time in the US.



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mrpapaye on 29 December 2011
Gunman121 said:

Your statistics are mistaken. This is a success for the PC.

Remember, with the 360 + PS3 = Costs are more to produce the game + retail space + walmart/gamestop take.


PC titles are cheaper to build, Thus 250,000-500,000 is considered a success. With Digital distribution, Take Steam 100,000- 200,000 units is necessary to make a profit. (Steam takes 30 % ) While at stores they take 60-70% --- now note, steam didn't have BF3. Take origin. 100 % profit right there.

This is not a failure. A failure for the PC is when a boxed unit only sells 20-80,000.


(This is why The Witcher 2 was considered a success)

Sorry but dont try to explain things when you have no idea what you are talking about, 60-70% at stores ! ...

I am a retailer and my margin on the customer price is something like 15% most of the times.  The cheapest shops i know in my retail chain have more or less 5% margin on new games.  So please, try to do some research before talking about 60-70% take by gaming stores...



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Slimebeast on 29 December 2011
mrpapaye said:
Gunman121 said:

Your statistics are mistaken. This is a success for the PC.

Remember, with the 360 + PS3 = Costs are more to produce the game + retail space + walmart/gamestop take.


PC titles are cheaper to build, Thus 250,000-500,000 is considered a success. With Digital distribution, Take Steam 100,000- 200,000 units is necessary to make a profit. (Steam takes 30 % ) While at stores they take 60-70% --- now note, steam didn't have BF3. Take origin. 100 % profit right there.

This is not a failure. A failure for the PC is when a boxed unit only sells 20-80,000.


(This is why The Witcher 2 was considered a success)

Sorry but dont try to explain things when you have no idea what you are talking about, 60-70% at stores ! ...

I am a retailer and my margin on the customer price is something like 15% most of the times.  The cheapest shops i know in my retail chain have more or less 5% margin on new games.  So please, try to do some research before talking about 60-70% take by gaming stores...

Out of curiousity. If your margin on new games is only 15% (which should mean you pay the distributor ~$50 for a regular $60 game), how can you make any money when most games drop to half price or less within just a few months?



UltimateUnknown on 29 December 2011
Slimebeast said:


Tbh you shouldn't really be comparing BF3 to MW3. The no. of MW3 players on the PS3 simultaneously (non-dominant for COD) is very likely greater than all of the BF3 players in every platform combined, let alone the 360, which is the go to platform for COD.

I was telling the minimum numbers I encounter when I play at different times of day, and if BF3 can pull of 55000 simultaneously at xbox alone as a minimum, thats pretty decent. Although I'm sure it increases and decreases depending on region times, peaks, weekends, etc I think its a good measure to see the absolute minimum number of players for a game on a given platform.



 

Reasonable on 29 December 2011
Slimebeast said:
http://bf3stats.com/

Right now as I write it says total number of players is 192,000 (of which 65,000 are PC players). Isn't that a bit low? I think Halo (in its prime) and COD typically has 4-500,000 players online simultaneously. Can somebody confirm this?


time of day (and time of year) matters in those numbers.  I'd say they seem alright in general the few times I've looked on the site.  You need to check at both prime EU and US playing times to get the peak picture.



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Slimebeast on 29 December 2011
Reasonable said:
Slimebeast said:
http://bf3stats.com/

Right now as I write it says total number of players is 192,000 (of which 65,000 are PC players). Isn't that a bit low? I think Halo (in its prime) and COD typically has 4-500,000 players online simultaneously. Can somebody confirm this?


time of day (and time of year) matters in those numbers.  I'd say they seem alright in general the few times I've looked on the site.  You need to check at both prime EU and US playing times to get the peak picture.

Well it's up at 98,000 for X360 now. Did America wake up yet?