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Wait- Steam got hacked? When did this happen? Didn't hear jack about this unlike the Sony hack.



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Well, just goes to show how much of a bad year PR wise this was for Sony....they just couldn't catch a break. when everyone else do 2wice as bad, folks seem to ignore it...oh well, hope 2012 is better for them.



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It's really too early to tell with the Valve hack. Until Valve have had more time to completely investigate the incident we can't say how bad it is. In Valve's favour, the hack was done through the forums so it might not be as bad as the PSN hack (at least on the surface); they only had to close down the forums and most of the damage seems to be more concerned with the forums than the actual service.

For PSN, the service was hacked directly resulting in massive closure of service. It was also the first major gaming hack to take place. Since then numerous devs and publishers have also been targeted. I think people are more forgiving now that it's happened industry-wide.



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What a crappy thing to compare lol.



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pezus said:
Funny thing is, my friend told me a week ago that one of his college professors (some computer class I think) talked specifically about the Sony hack in his class and he even spread the misinformation that credit card information was stolen from PSN. My friend believed him, of course (he's not a console gamer and knows almost nothing about consoles). Still, there's something wrong when professors read something like that and decide to spread it to their students.


pezus, wasnt it confirmed by Sony themselves that credit card information was compromised?



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Scoobes said:
It's really too early to tell with the Valve hack. Until Valve have had more time to completely investigate the incident we can't say how bad it is. In Valve's favour, the hack was done through the forums so it might not be as bad as the PSN hack (at least on the surface); they only had to close down the forums and most of the damage seems to be more concerned with the forums than the actual service.

For PSN, the service was hacked directly resulting in massive closure of service. It was also the first major gaming hack to take place. Since then numerous devs and publishers have also been targeted. I think people are more forgiving now that it's happened industry-wide.

Actually Gabe said it went further than the forums because a data base was hacked and it contained credit card info and passwords.

Like you said it was the first publicised attack on a large network and as such was blown out of proportion and yes the number one thing was the closure since pretty soon after it reopened the storm subsided, another thing Sony had going against it that Valve doesn't is lots of 360 supporter's inflaming the situation, yes a minority but like most minority's a very vocal one.



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mjk45 said:
Scoobes said:
It's really too early to tell with the Valve hack. Until Valve have had more time to completely investigate the incident we can't say how bad it is. In Valve's favour, the hack was done through the forums so it might not be as bad as the PSN hack (at least on the surface); they only had to close down the forums and most of the damage seems to be more concerned with the forums than the actual service.

For PSN, the service was hacked directly resulting in massive closure of service. It was also the first major gaming hack to take place. Since then numerous devs and publishers have also been targeted. I think people are more forgiving now that it's happened industry-wide.

Actually Gabe said it went further than the forums because a data base was hacked and it contained credit card info and passwords.

Like you said it was the first publicised attack on a large network and as such was blown out of proportion and yes the number one thing was the closure since pretty soon after it reopened the storm subsided, another thing Sony had going against it that Valve doesn't is lots of 360 supporter's inflaming the situation, yes a minority but like most minority's a very vocal one.

Let's hope the encryption on the credit card info holds then.

And yeah, Sony were unlucky they were the first to experience such an attack. I don't think the 360 supporters really made too much of a difference as it was reported and misreported in a lot of mainstream media outlets. They probably did more PR damage than 360 supporters ever could.



Scoobes said:
mjk45 said:
Scoobes said:
It's really too early to tell with the Valve hack. Until Valve have had more time to completely investigate the incident we can't say how bad it is. In Valve's favour, the hack was done through the forums so it might not be as bad as the PSN hack (at least on the surface); they only had to close down the forums and most of the damage seems to be more concerned with the forums than the actual service.

For PSN, the service was hacked directly resulting in massive closure of service. It was also the first major gaming hack to take place. Since then numerous devs and publishers have also been targeted. I think people are more forgiving now that it's happened industry-wide.

Actually Gabe said it went further than the forums because a data base was hacked and it contained credit card info and passwords.

Like you said it was the first publicised attack on a large network and as such was blown out of proportion and yes the number one thing was the closure since pretty soon after it reopened the storm subsided, another thing Sony had going against it that Valve doesn't is lots of 360 supporter's inflaming the situation, yes a minority but like most minority's a very vocal one.

Let's hope the encryption on the credit card info holds then.

And yeah, Sony were unlucky they were the first to experience such an attack. I don't think the 360 supporters really made too much of a difference as it was reported and misreported in a lot of mainstream media outlets. They probably did more PR damage than 360 supporters ever could.

Considering these guys hacked into Steam, id say they professional hackers.

And with the relatively cheap availability of super computing power...id say its only a matter of time before they break that encryption with brute force.

All depends what their intentions were ofcourse, most of the hacking that takes place these days doesnt ever account to fraud, etc.



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Scoobes said:
mjk45 said:
Scoobes said:
It's really too early to tell with the Valve hack. Until Valve have had more time to completely investigate the incident we can't say how bad it is. In Valve's favour, the hack was done through the forums so it might not be as bad as the PSN hack (at least on the surface); they only had to close down the forums and most of the damage seems to be more concerned with the forums than the actual service.

For PSN, the service was hacked directly resulting in massive closure of service. It was also the first major gaming hack to take place. Since then numerous devs and publishers have also been targeted. I think people are more forgiving now that it's happened industry-wide.

Actually Gabe said it went further than the forums because a data base was hacked and it contained credit card info and passwords.

Like you said it was the first publicised attack on a large network and as such was blown out of proportion and yes the number one thing was the closure since pretty soon after it reopened the storm subsided, another thing Sony had going against it that Valve doesn't is lots of 360 supporter's inflaming the situation, yes a minority but like most minority's a very vocal one.

Let's hope the encryption on the credit card info holds then.

And yeah, Sony were unlucky they were the first to experience such an attack. I don't think the 360 supporters really made too much of a difference as it was reported and misreported in a lot of mainstream media outlets. They probably did more PR damage than 360 supporters ever could.

I agree the360 supporters thing wasn't a huge difference, but it was  one more thing on the let's inflame the situation Sony pile that Valve doesn't have.



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