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More Spanish reviews:

JuegosDB: 98/100
http://www.juegosdb.com/analisis-de-the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword-desarrollo-y-apartado-tecnico-wii/

Vandal: 95/100
http://www.vandal.net/analisis/wii/the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword/10877



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That would help the Metacritic score stays Twilight Princess levels.



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DavidValbu said:
More Spanish reviews:

JuegosDB: 98/100
http://www.juegosdb.com/analisis-de-the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword-desarrollo-y-apartado-tecnico-wii/

Vandal: 95/100
http://www.vandal.net/analisis/wii/the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword/10877

Great but do these scores get added to metacritic?



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TWRoO said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Conegamer said:

Don't forget about some strange conversion ratings (B+ is 84, 4/5 is 80 etc.)

The weighting is good for the most part, however. 

That should be 90? 


I assume you are questioning Conegamers maths, and not correcting (4/5 of 100 is 80)

The problem isn't with the maths, but the fact that converting a 6 point scoring system (0-5) to a 101 point (0-100) is only going to work if the reviewers using the 6 point system follow similar rules to those who use 101 point systems..... ie if 75/100, or 7.5 is generally considered an average game score... then the 6 point system has only 2 possible scores for above average games, but 4 for below average. This is clearly ridiculous, especially given that ganerally a lot of rubbish games don't actually get reviewed... so most of the publications reviews would then fall under just 2 scores.

I would say reviewers that use a 5 or 6 point system will at minimum assume 3 to be the benchmark for 'average' (which is what I hope is what reviewers think of a game that you can enjoy, but may not be worth your money unless you are a fan of the series/genre or whatever) Personally it would make more sense to me to use 2 as 'average'... that way you can use 1 to call a game dull or poor, and 0 to say 'stay away, don't even look at the game box'.

As such, 6 point systems don't gel with the 100 point systems, and shouldn't be combined.

what would solve this problem of weighting is for metacric to allow those publications to specify the weightings themselves as a conversion to the 101point system.

e.g a star system out of 5 sstars may not even be the same as a points system out of 5. Then you got the alphabet system. we really don't know what each of these values mean. It may be a linear relationship or not, only those publications can specify their true worth.

not tomention, then you got those odd sites out there which rank out of 3 or 4 stars.



 

 

BasilZero said:
I have a question, is there a firmware requirement for the wii motion plus, or is it compatible with every firmware on the Wii? o.o

I would imagine there was yes, but there is no need to worry about it. If you are connected online then you get the updates as soon as they come out, if not then future games have them on the disc. Wii sports resort probably had the first one for Motion+ support, and from then onwards any game that requires the firmware update will have it included on the disc.



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Khuutra said:
Conegamer said:
Khuutra said:

Why, pray tell?

Because it stops completely bias reviews from the smaller sites (like the AV Club Uncharted review) and insanely high reviews from smaller sites who are inexperienced in reviewing from skewing the score too much. On the other hand, reviews from sites like ONM, Edge, IGN, Destructoid etc. who do a lot more reviews, have a lot more respect and often get a lot nearer to the actual metascore of the game (on the actual quality) get a higher preference.

It's a strange system and one I'm uncomforable with, but I see why they do it.

Except that you don't actually know who's getting more weight, here. There's no transparency to the system. We don't even know if the weight is the same for sites between different reviews.

I don't hold one reviewer's set of opinions as being inherently higher than others. IGN's been around for about 15 years or so now (probably longer), but they still employ some of the worst reviewers in the industry. Giving them higher weight because of their age or popularity doesn't add to the veracity of metascore, it subtracts from it.

Keep in mind that the age of a publication has almost nothing to do with the experience of its reviewers, though it often has something to do with the experience of its editorial staff.

No, I prefer a simple mean average, unweighted, so I can see how the game actually reviewed. If I want to just look at a few sites, I'll just look at a few sites. If I just want to average a few sites, I'll do that. If I want to weight a few sites, as we do in our heads by giving more prominence to certain publications (Edge and Eurogamer for me, though I still disagree with them a lot), then I'll do that.

Review aggregates should leave the averages alone, or be transparent in how they weight them.

That's why I said "It's a strange system and one I'm uncomfortable with, but I see why they do it". 

I completely agree with you though. Age of site =/= knowledge of staff. Staff get recycled every year or so, and, even if they don't, everyone has their own opinion. You can't aggregate that...unless everyone was to use exactly the same scale with exactly the same meaning for each score (e.g. 10 perfection, 9 amazing, 8 great, 7 good, 6 above average, 5 average, 4 below average, 3 poor, 2 bad, 1 terrible, 0 never happened). That way the weighting system could work, prvided we had enough reliable information to extrapolate from. 

At this moment, we don't, and thus sites like Metacritic are useless aside from compling reviews to read, not the overall score.

 

Also- UK commercial. I like. Straight to the point. We should have more ads like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0m3j0AYyaA



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

TWRoO said:
Lostplanet22 said:
Conegamer said:

Don't forget about some strange conversion ratings (B+ is 84, 4/5 is 80 etc.)

The weighting is good for the most part, however. 

That should be 90? 


I assume you are questioning Conegamers maths, and not correcting (4/5 of 100 is 80)

The problem isn't with the maths, but the fact that converting a 6 point scoring system (0-5) to a 101 point (0-100) is only going to work if the reviewers using the 6 point system follow similar rules to those who use 101 point systems..... ie if 75/100, or 7.5 is generally considered an average game score... then the 6 point system has only 2 possible scores for above average games, but 4 for below average. This is clearly ridiculous, especially given that ganerally a lot of rubbish games don't actually get reviewed... so most of the publications reviews would then fall under just 2 scores.

I would say reviewers that use a 5 or 6 point system will at minimum assume 3 to be the benchmark for 'average' (which is what I hope is what reviewers think of a game that you can enjoy, but may not be worth your money unless you are a fan of the series/genre or whatever) Personally it would make more sense to me to use 2 as 'average'... that way you can use 1 to call a game dull or poor, and 0 to say 'stay away, don't even look at the game box'.

As such, 6 point systems don't gel with the 100 point systems, and shouldn't be combined.

I was gonna reply to the above post, but you did so far better than I could, and said pretty much what I was going to. 

Congratualtions.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Holy cow, 4 days.

Anyone here familiar with Amazon (UK) and pre-orders? ie when should I expect the game to arrive.... last time I pre-ordered was Windwaker over 8 years ago, I can't remember when it came though.



GoNintendo gave it a 10/10

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=166162



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TWRoO said:
Holy cow, 4 days.

Anyone here familiar with Amazon (UK) and pre-orders? ie when should I expect the game to arrive.... last time I pre-ordered was Windwaker over 8 years ago, I can't remember when it came though.

Which delivery method did you choose? If you went with First Class (or even Prime), you may actually get it a day early, but would arrive on release at the latest (Edit - typed earliest by mistake). If you've gone for free delivery, you may get it on release day, or you may get it in the middle of next week.



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