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Rainbird said:
brendude13 said:
I think the reason why people, including me, have an issue with John Carmack's constant PS3 complaining is that he is making excuses for why RAGE isn't the graphics king. Every week I see him complaining about the PS3's memory and architecture, we've heard it all before. Until he makes a game that looks better than Uncharted 3, or whatever you think is the best looking console game, then he can shut the fuck up.

It's like comparing apples to oranges. Show me the open world game with as much detail as RAGE's that runs at 60 FPS on consoles. It doesn't exist.

And he's only complaining because he's being asked. It even says in the OP that Carmack responded to a player over twitter who had asked him why the PS3 version didn't run better.

From what I've seen, RAGE isn't a very good looking game, it runs well, but how it looks is a different story. The textures looks low res, the models lack detail, the colour scheme is muddy and the game lacks lighting and shadow effects.

I will give it credit for handling huge, open environments.

It's fair enough that somebody asked him, but he could have just ignored them, rather than making blunt comments every week about how terrible the PS3's architecture is and why it's the reason the reason that the PS3 version isn't as good (which I'm confused about, the LensofTruth analysis was extremely close).



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So, Carmack first implies that PC gaming is not where it's at and that they need to focus on consoles and now he's whining about how consoles have poor hardware?

Lol. That is all.



Mummelmann said:
So, Carmack first implies that PC gaming is not where it's at and that they need to focus on consoles and now he's whining about how consoles have poor hardware?

Lol. That is all.

He was asked why the PS3 version didn't perform better than it does and he answered the question. It's got nothing to do with whining. Not to mention that the move to focus on consoles is userbase-related rather than technology related.



Rainbird said:
Mummelmann said:
So, Carmack first implies that PC gaming is not where it's at and that they need to focus on consoles and now he's whining about how consoles have poor hardware?

Lol. That is all.

He was asked why the PS3 version didn't perform better than it does and he answered the question. It's got nothing to do with whining. Not to mention that the move to focus on consoles is userbase-related rather than technology related.


No. He was requested to let us know if he could improve the game performance on ps3 or not. He was clearly pissed off and gave this harsh answer, that sounds a lot like an excuse. Q. : "Be professional and speak clearly: can you do something better?" A.: "The hardware is shit, it's not my fault".

It's an excuse. He could have simply answered that he had not enough experience on that kind of hardware, that he had not enough time to optimize the performances, that he miscalculated the tasks for those hardware capabilities. But saying that is just an excuse, 8Gb is not the largest install, and RAM is not that tight (it's even on a double bus, a feature that common pcs have not)...



kowenicki said:
developer slags off MS or 360 - gospel, the truth, undeniable fact.

developer slags off Sony or PS3 - idiot, cant program, fanboy developer in ms pocket.

quoted 4 truth



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John Carmack is a joke.Face it hes just mad RAGE isn't the best looking game graphics wise.Hes not to shy to suck on M$ nut suck though.



I dont see why he complains when he can just not develop for the PS3.I mean its not that hard.If you knew you were going to have problems dont complain.



NotStan said:
x_DMX_x said:
Yup im totally going to believe this guy.This coming from the guy who claimed that "the PS3 verison of the game was easy to develop because of blu-ray platform it will be one of the dominant versions"Now he does this.Not only that but Microsoft pays developers to have muliplat games look better on 360.So this is the biggest bullshit ive heard since Wii HD.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHhahhahahahaha

Ok you laugh but, can you answer this question?

Why does Killzone 3 look better than any Xbox360 game and why cant any Multiplat game look as good as Killzone 3.

Ive seen comparisons on youtube with Killzone vs Crysis and Killzone looks better.

So can you answer my question?



x_DMX_x said:
NotStan said:
x_DMX_x said:
Yup im totally going to believe this guy.This coming from the guy who claimed that "the PS3 verison of the game was easy to develop because of blu-ray platform it will be one of the dominant versions"Now he does this.Not only that but Microsoft pays developers to have muliplat games look better on 360.So this is the biggest bullshit ive heard since Wii HD.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHhahhahahahaha

Ok you laugh but, can you answer this question?

Why does Killzone 3 look better than any Xbox360 game and why cant any Multiplat game look as good as Killzone 3.

Ive seen comparisons on youtube with Killzone vs Crysis and Killzone looks better.

So can you answer my question?

Most multiplats have the 360 as the lead platform and even if they don't,  a multiplat will never be optimized to the extent of an exclusive title.



x_DMX_x said:
NotStan said:
x_DMX_x said:
Yup im totally going to believe this guy.This coming from the guy who claimed that "the PS3 verison of the game was easy to develop because of blu-ray platform it will be one of the dominant versions"Now he does this.Not only that but Microsoft pays developers to have muliplat games look better on 360.So this is the biggest bullshit ive heard since Wii HD.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHhahhahahahaha

Ok you laugh but, can you answer this question?

Why does Killzone 3 look better than any Xbox360 game and why cant any Multiplat game look as good as Killzone 3.

Ive seen comparisons on youtube with Killzone vs Crysis and Killzone looks better.

So can you answer my question?

You obviously have no frigging clue and just slinging mud around, I am actually genuinely surprised you haven't been banned yet, 90 posts, that's probably the longest one of you have lasted with such an attitude.

"Games look better on multiplatform, so Microsoft bribe all developers! It's a conspiracy man!"

Get your tinfoil hat on, I think microsoft might be using their satellites to look into your brain and steal ideas for 1st party games.



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