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Kantor said:
Smeags said:

I'm really not one for talking about world views and belief systems on message boards (not really sure why I posted on this one... I think it was AndresPetMonkey's avatar that hooked me), but if you have questions that you want to ask, go ahead.

Don't be too mean though!

Just one simple question, then.

Do you accept evolution, as a clear scientific consensus with significant amounts of evidence in favour?

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Andrespetmonkey said:
Marks said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
Marks said:
On the fence between Christianity and Atheism.

I believe a God created the Earth, and perhaps created organisms...but I definitely think evolution has happened. I don't really believe in the bible.


I was like this for while when I started disbelieving in christianity. The conclusion I came to was - we can trace all matter in this universe to one point in time, the big bang, we aren't sure what happened before the big bang, but does that mean god? I don't think not knowing is a reason to believe in any god, let alone one attached to any religion, so my default stand is disbelief.

Do you believe in the christian god?
If not, you're a deist :)


Your point makes sense man. Right now I'm definitely leaning more towards atheism/agnosticism than Christianity. And I wouldn't even say its "The Christian God" I believe in, just a general higher power/creator. Something like that :/ 

So yeah I guess I am a deist by definition, sounds like a weird title to have. 

What makes you so sure about the big bang and everything? I'm trying to figure out what the big bang really is so I can understand it and make a decision. 

Well I'm pretty sure about it since a lot of what we know about the universe that are facts, wouldn't really make sense without the big bang. I'm no astrophysicist, so I'd just google stuff like "basic explanation of the big bang theory" and "evidence for the big bang"

Some videos on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCkADmNdNo&feature=BFa&list=PLD07D73CD6333903F 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcds5Ob59Dg


Cool thanks man I'll watch those when I get a chance



Kantor said:

Just one simple question, then.

Do you accept evolution, as a clear scientific consensus with significant amounts of evidence in favour?

I'll put it this way (in favor [Ha! Me and my silly American spelling! ] of saving time):

I believe that Genesis 1 is a poetic and metaphorical account of creation (like how the Psalms are mostly poetic and not taken "literally") and that Genesis 2 is an actual historical account. I suppose you can call me an "old world creationist", which is different from "new world creationism" (God forms the world, fills it with life, and then sets man and woman upon it in a literal seven day period) in that God does in fact form the world and fill it with life, but over a much longer (Billions? Possibly) period of time.

So yes, I believe that God guided some kind of process of natural selection, but I also reject the concept of evolution as some all encompassing theory.

(Also, as important as Genesis and Creation are, it's really not the main story of what Christianity is about. So to be honest, while I do believe that God had a hand in creation, It's really not the focus of my faith)

@Miz

Lol, don't worry too much about me.



Smeags said:
Kantor said:

Just one simple question, then.

Do you accept evolution, as a clear scientific consensus with significant amounts of evidence in favour?

I'll put it this way (in favor [Ha! Me and my silly American spelling! ] of saving time):

I believe that Genesis 1 is a poetic and metaphorical account of creation (like how the Psalms are mostly poetic and not taken "literally") and that Genesis 2 is an actual historical account. I suppose you can call me an "old world creationist", which is different from "new world creationism" (God forms the world, fills it with life, and then sets man and woman upon it in a literal seven day period) in that God does in fact form the world and fill it with life, but over a much longer (Billions? Possibly) period of time.

So yes, I believe that God guided some kind of process of natural selection, but I also reject the concept of evolution as some all encompassing theory.

(Also, as important as Genesis and Creation are, it's really not the main story of what Christianity is about. So to be honest, while I do believe that God had a hand in creation, It's really not the focus of my faith)

@Miz

Lol, don't worry too much about me.

God-guided natural selection is still natural selection.

Genesis 2, however, is quite clearly an account of creation. God creates the Garden of Eden, puts Adam in it, tells him not to eat from the evil tree, and rips out one of his ribs to make his wife. No monkeys, dinosaurs or single-celled organisms.

I would be intrigued to know what you think Christianity really is about. What is the most important part of it?



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Kantor said:

God-guided natural selection is still natural selection.

Genesis 2, however, is quite clearly an account of creation. God creates the Garden of Eden, puts Adam in it, tells him not to eat from the evil tree, and rips out one of his ribs to make his wife. No monkeys, dinosaurs or single-celled organisms.

I would be intrigued to know what you think Christianity really is about. What is the most important part of it?

Well yes, I do believe that God did create man and women in his image (and because of that, we are inherently valued), but as for Dinosaurs, that goes back to the "old earth" thought, where they were created (however that worked out) long before mankind was created (however that worked out). The fossil record makes that much pretty clear *laughs*.

As for what I think Christianity is all about, I'll give you 4 points

1. Creation (God forms the Earth and Creation as he sees it. He sees this as good.)

2. Fall (Mankind, thinking that they can be God [eating from the tree] bring sin* into the world. Being a holy and righteous God, a chasm between us is created, and this affects everything. The trajection of creation has been skewed.)

  • For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. (Romans 8:22)
  • *Sin is not some "Do this/Don't do this" list of rules. Sin is missing the mark of what God wants for us, and we all fall short of this.

3. Redemption (Jesus Christ, being who He is [the Son of God, perfect and Holy before God and all that jazz ] came to rescue all of Mankind and creation through his sacrifice on the cross.

  • and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross. (Col 1:20)
  • Not only did Jesus close the chasm between us and God (as we can now be seen as righteous before a righteous God), he showed what it looks like to live through his 30~ years living here. As Christains, we try to live by what he said and what he did.

4. Restoration (It doesn't end with Christs' sacrifice and ressurection 2000 years ago. His life was only the beginning of something... the return of God's original plan for all of Creation.)

  • Jesus' life and teachings tell us how to live a restored life, one that goes with God's plan.
    • Love God with all your heart, soul, and mind.
    • Love your neighbor as yourself.
  • Earth was never some meaningless rock meant to be destroyed, but God says he'll make a "new heaven and a new earth" which shows that he cares for His creation.

So yeah... that's kind of a sparknotes version lol. ^_^

Also, I know there's plenty of people who call themselves Christians that use their position to judge others and make themselves righteous. But remember Jesus said this:

  • "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." (Mark 2:17)
  • Jesus criticised not the sinners, but the self-righteous (in his time the pharisees).

So don't think too much of 'em. ^_~

Sorry for the late reply, I'm watching the Walking Dead right now.



To be honest i think anyone who believes in God cant be right in the head. You have to be pretty stupid to believe in the whole thing really. Religion is the cause for all the trouble in this world, especially Muslims.



Raised a Muslim, became an agnostic/skeptic from 12 to 17, and I'm now a more devout Muslim.

And for anyone wondering, as I said before, on the topic of evolution I believe in theistic evolution, and I also support the big bang theory.



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DarthVolod said:

Strong atheist here with an active disbelief in the God of the Judeo-Christian variety since, by its own definition, it can not possibly exist. In terms of broader philosophical views I would describe my personal views as rational egoism (of the Randian variety), and my political views are best described as anarcho-capitalist.

 

As a side note, I don't like how the poll lumps together atheists and agnostics. Most atheists I have encountered (including myself) have strong beliefs regarding this subject which are, typically, supported by reason. Agnostics have just as much in common with Christians as they do atheists which is nothing. A Christian holds a viewpoint (an irrational one in my eyes but it is still a firm belief) and an atheist argues for just one side as well ... agnostics are not in a transition to theism or atheism they are not an inbetween answer either. I always saw agnosticism as a part of a nihilistic world view.

Based on my experience...I beg to differ. Now don't get me wrong, I've also met many unreasonable religious nuts, but to say atheists are the more logical people is the biggest fallacy I've heard.



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huaxiong90 said:
DarthVolod said:

Strong atheist here with an active disbelief in the God of the Judeo-Christian variety since, by its own definition, it can not possibly exist. In terms of broader philosophical views I would describe my personal views as rational egoism (of the Randian variety), and my political views are best described as anarcho-capitalist.

 

As a side note, I don't like how the poll lumps together atheists and agnostics. Most atheists I have encountered (including myself) have strong beliefs regarding this subject which are, typically, supported by reason. Agnostics have just as much in common with Christians as they do atheists which is nothing. A Christian holds a viewpoint (an irrational one in my eyes but it is still a firm belief) and an atheist argues for just one side as well ... agnostics are not in a transition to theism or atheism they are not an inbetween answer either. I always saw agnosticism as a part of a nihilistic world view.

Based on my experience...I beg to differ. Now don't get me wrong, I've also met many unreasonable religious nuts, but to say atheists are the more logical people is the biggest fallacy I've heard.

Atheists (in this context non-believers) are by definition more logical because if religious people would think logically, they would not be religious.