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Who will win?

Chicago Blackhawks 12 80.00%
 
Tampa Bay Lightning 3 20.00%
 
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Marks said:
Metallicube said:
Phoenix is REALLY starting to piss me off. First their goalie acts like he just got hit by a tank, getting Shaw suspended 3 games, now Torres completely decks Hossa, sending him to the hospital and winning the game at our place in OT, that very well could have been ours had Hossa not been injured. There needs to be some major retaliation..


Yeah I don't know why Mike Smith exaggerated the hit so much, but it was still a dirty ass hit by Shaw. Chicago knows Phoenix is a team that relies on defense and goaltending so taking a run at their goalie like that is completely classless. I fully support the 3 game suspension, if Smith was injured it should have been longer. 

As for the Torres hit, it was clean as a whistle. He didn't leave his feet until contact was made. Sadly the league will probably still give him a game suspension for that clean hit because of his previous record of suspensions/fines. 

And as for "there needs to be major retaliation", Torres' hit on Hossa could well have been the retaliation you're talking about, for the cheap shot on Smith. 

eh I guess, but to me it didn't look like Shaw hit him hard at all.. I know that your not supposed to hit the goalie, and I also know that Smith knows this, and milked that hit for all it was worth, helped to draw the contact and make it look a lot worse than it actually was by flopping. Certainly didn't equal the supposed retaliation of Torres practically tackling hossa.



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Marks said:

As for the Torres hit, it was clean as a whistle. He didn't leave his feet until contact was made. Sadly the league will probably still give him a game suspension for that clean hit because of his previous record of suspensions/fines. 

Horseshit.

I am a Blues fan, as you can probably guess by my posts, so I am no fan of the Blackhawks.  But that is a dirty hit.  Not the dirtiest we have seen in these playoffs, but still dirty.

He did leave his feet before contact was made.  It would be physically impossible to get airborn like than unless he launched himself before the hit.  He targeted the head.  The major point of contact was shoulder to face for God's sake.  The puck was gone.  It was charging.  It was interference.  It was dirty.

It could have been any number of penalties.  It should be a suspension.



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I'd have to agree with the majority, that hit was dirty.

With his history, I can see the suspension being anywhere from 5 games to the rest of the playoffs.



Really enjoyed watching the Predators game. The refs in that series are really over calling the penalties though usually in Detroit's favor. Oh well, they are getting it done even though the refs also would not even allow Toronto to review an early goal fluke off a Detroit player that clearly should of counted.

I heard Todd Bootuzzi came up to the Predators players who were using Detroit's Ping Pong table outside of the locker rooms, told them if they wanted to play to get their own. Then proceeded to fold the table up and roll it into Detroit's locker room. What a thug.

Other than that I missed most of Phoenix and Chicago due to doing other things after the first period. Most of my teams are losing which is a shame as I will definantly lose interest in the Playoffs. Oh well.

Oh and Plezbo stop getting banned and post here when you get back because the Flyers are starting to look like the most interesting team left if Vancouver and Chicago fall out early.



theRepublic said:
Marks said:

As for the Torres hit, it was clean as a whistle. He didn't leave his feet until contact was made. Sadly the league will probably still give him a game suspension for that clean hit because of his previous record of suspensions/fines. 

Horseshit.

I am a Blues fan, as you can probably guess by my posts, so I am no fan of the Blackhawks.  But that is a dirty hit.  Not the dirtiest we have seen in these playoffs, but still dirty.

He did leave his feet before contact was made.  It would be physically impossible to get airborn like than unless he launched himself before the hit.  He targeted the head.  The major point of contact was shoulder to face for God's sake.  The puck was gone.  It was charging.  It was interference.  It was dirty.

It could have been any number of penalties.  It should be a suspension.


I've watched it a couple more times and I do now agree it was on the dirty side. Not because of so-called interference (Hossa got caught admiring his pass) or charging or whatever, but simply because I do now see that he left his feet prior to the hit and it was to the chin. If it had been the exact same hit except shoulder to shoulder without leaving his feet I would call it clean as a whistle. 



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Metallicube said:
Marks said:
Metallicube said:
Phoenix is REALLY starting to piss me off. First their goalie acts like he just got hit by a tank, getting Shaw suspended 3 games, now Torres completely decks Hossa, sending him to the hospital and winning the game at our place in OT, that very well could have been ours had Hossa not been injured. There needs to be some major retaliation..


Yeah I don't know why Mike Smith exaggerated the hit so much, but it was still a dirty ass hit by Shaw. Chicago knows Phoenix is a team that relies on defense and goaltending so taking a run at their goalie like that is completely classless. I fully support the 3 game suspension, if Smith was injured it should have been longer. 

As for the Torres hit, it was clean as a whistle. He didn't leave his feet until contact was made. Sadly the league will probably still give him a game suspension for that clean hit because of his previous record of suspensions/fines. 

And as for "there needs to be major retaliation", Torres' hit on Hossa could well have been the retaliation you're talking about, for the cheap shot on Smith. 

eh I guess, but to me it didn't look like Shaw hit him hard at all.. I know that your not supposed to hit the goalie, and I also know that Smith knows this, and milked that hit for all it was worth, helped to draw the contact and make it look a lot worse than it actually was by flopping. Certainly didn't equal the supposed retaliation of Torres practically tackling hossa.

I've watched the Hossa hit a couple more times now and I do agree it was dirty. I think it would normally be a 1-2 game suspension type hit but with Torres' record probably 5 games easily. 

But I still stand by the hit on Smith being dirty (the fact Smith exaggerated it so much doesn't change the hit). Shaw wasn't forced into Smith, he was able to pick his own path and instead of trying to make any type of play for the puck he turns into smith and launches his shoulder up into Smith's head. Definitely a dirty play. 



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Oh I can't believe I haven't shared this before... but if you guys like to see some more behind the scenes looks at the day to day lives of some players check out http://playbook.nhlpa.com. For now they're following Scott Hartnell (Philadelphia Flyers), Bobby Ryan (Anaheim Ducks), Joffrey Lupul (Toronto Maple Leafs), Martin Biron (New York Rangers) and Michael Grabner (New York Islanders).


Cool, thanks for the tip! I'll check it out. 



I back Torres.



Marks said:
theRepublic said:
Marks said:

As for the Torres hit, it was clean as a whistle. He didn't leave his feet until contact was made. Sadly the league will probably still give him a game suspension for that clean hit because of his previous record of suspensions/fines. 

Horseshit.

I am a Blues fan, as you can probably guess by my posts, so I am no fan of the Blackhawks.  But that is a dirty hit.  Not the dirtiest we have seen in these playoffs, but still dirty.

He did leave his feet before contact was made.  It would be physically impossible to get airborn like than unless he launched himself before the hit.  He targeted the head.  The major point of contact was shoulder to face for God's sake.  The puck was gone.  It was charging.  It was interference.  It was dirty.

It could have been any number of penalties.  It should be a suspension.

I've watched it a couple more times and I do now agree it was on the dirty side. Not because of so-called interference (Hossa got caught admiring his pass) or charging or whatever, but simply because I do now see that he left his feet prior to the hit and it was to the chin. If it had been the exact same hit except shoulder to shoulder without leaving his feet I would call it clean as a whistle. 

I agree there.  Torres could have lowered his sholder into Hossa chest and it still would have been a huge hit.  Hossa wouldn't have gotten hurt either.  He just would have had the wind knocked out of him and he could have just skated back to the bench.



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theRepublic said:
Marks said:
theRepublic said:
Marks said:

As for the Torres hit, it was clean as a whistle. He didn't leave his feet until contact was made. Sadly the league will probably still give him a game suspension for that clean hit because of his previous record of suspensions/fines. 

Horseshit.

I am a Blues fan, as you can probably guess by my posts, so I am no fan of the Blackhawks.  But that is a dirty hit.  Not the dirtiest we have seen in these playoffs, but still dirty.

He did leave his feet before contact was made.  It would be physically impossible to get airborn like than unless he launched himself before the hit.  He targeted the head.  The major point of contact was shoulder to face for God's sake.  The puck was gone.  It was charging.  It was interference.  It was dirty.

It could have been any number of penalties.  It should be a suspension.

I've watched it a couple more times and I do now agree it was on the dirty side. Not because of so-called interference (Hossa got caught admiring his pass) or charging or whatever, but simply because I do now see that he left his feet prior to the hit and it was to the chin. If it had been the exact same hit except shoulder to shoulder without leaving his feet I would call it clean as a whistle. 

I agree there.  Torres could have lowered his sholder into Hossa chest and it still would have been a huge hit.  Hossa wouldn't have gotten hurt either.  He just would have had the wind knocked out of him and he could have just skated back to the bench.

Yeah I don't understand why players like Torrest have to go for the headshot/knockout. You don't need to injure the guy for it to be a big hit and to fire up your team. Any hit that's big and knocks a player like Hossa on his ass will get the boys fired up, seeing him leave on a stretcher shouldn't be anyone's goal.