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Forums - Sales Discussion - Xbox 360 Vs. Playstation 3 2012 - *February* Update

Seece on 31 December 2011

Ham_burgeler has a point, sorry if you don't like that.

It's only fesible to compare things on an even keel, fact of the matter is PS3 had a price cut and 360 didn't, and you can harp on about gift cards all you like, most years this gen MS have shipped more elsewhere than they have in the US for Q4, and it had basically jack all elsewhere whilst PS3 had a cut. PS3 also had giftcards and deals on top of its price cut.

I don't think exclusives really matter much, don't think role reversal there would have made much difference.



 

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Seece on 31 December 2011

I must say pezus and thismential, you both seem very defensive over Sony being ahead as of now, like you don't want anyone to have an opinion other than 'fuck yeah SONY'



 

Areym on 31 December 2011
pezus said:
Areym said:
I'm actually quite amazed that the 360 has sold so well during these holidays. I gotta admit, I was one of the people saying the PS3 would outsell the 360 for the year, but I was wrong.

My guesses are that once holidays die down, the PS3 will continue to outsell the 360 for the most part of 2012. During that time, the PS3 will close the gap with the 360 up until the holidays, which will most likely be the scenario as these holidays. Also, if a new xbox is announced during 2012, I will assume that the 360's sales will slow down a bit, then again MS did say that Kinect would add 5 years to the 360's lifespan...This gen is confusing :/

Huh?

I figured that was perfectly understandable. I have been saying thru out this year that the PS3 would outsell the 360 without a problem, yet these holidays have proven that the 360 will outsell the PS3, ASSUMING I am reading that chart correctly. 

Seriously, I did not see it coming. I don't understand America's excessive love for the 360. Not that the 360 doesn't deserve it, it just boggles my mind the difference between PS3 and 360 sales in America alone.



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Seece on 31 December 2011
pezus said:
Seece said:
Ham_burgeler has a point, sorry if you don't like that.

It's only fesible to compare things on an even keel, fact of the matter is PS3 had a price cut and 360 didn't, and you can harp on about gift cards all you like, most years this gen MS have shipped more elsewhere than they have in the US for Q4, and it had basically jack all elsewhere whilst PS3 had a cut. PS3 also had giftcards and deals on top of its price cut.

I don't think exclusives really matter much, don't think role reversal there would have made much difference.

So you'd say Kinect is not a factor but a price cut is? 

I'm saying, Sony has an answer to Kinect, the Move. MS didn't respond to PS3 cut.



 

Areym on 31 December 2011
pezus said:
Areym said:
pezus said:
Areym said:
I'm actually quite amazed that the 360 has sold so well during these holidays. I gotta admit, I was one of the people saying the PS3 would outsell the 360 for the year, but I was wrong.

My guesses are that once holidays die down, the PS3 will continue to outsell the 360 for the most part of 2012. During that time, the PS3 will close the gap with the 360 up until the holidays, which will most likely be the scenario as these holidays. Also, if a new xbox is announced during 2012, I will assume that the 360's sales will slow down a bit, then again MS did say that Kinect would add 5 years to the 360's lifespan...This gen is confusing :/

Huh?

I figured that was perfectly understandable. I have been saying thru out this year that the PS3 would outsell the 360 without a problem, yet these holidays have proven that the 360 will outsell the PS3, ASSUMING I am reading that chart correctly. 

Seriously, I did not see it coming. I don't understand America's excessive love for the 360. Not that the 360 doesn't deserve it, it just boggles my mind the difference between PS3 and 360 sales in America alone.

PS3 is still ahead though, so you weren't wrong.

isn't there one more sales chart before the holidays finish?



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thismeintiel on 31 December 2011
Seece said:
I must say pezus and thismential, you both seem very defensive over Sony being ahead as of now, like you don't want anyone to have an opinion other than 'fuck yeah SONY'

Lol, seems more like you and a few others don't like the fact that the PS3 came out on top.  So you have to come up with hypotheticals or talk about statistical ties.  I think you guys are going to like it even less if there are adjustments.



 

Seece on 31 December 2011
thismeintiel said:
Seece said:
I must say pezus and thismential, you both seem very defensive over Sony being ahead as of now, like you don't want anyone to have an opinion other than 'fuck yeah SONY'

Lol, seems more like you and a few others don't like the fact that the PS3 came out on top.  So you have to come up with hypotheticals or talk about statistical ties.  I think you guys are going to like it even less if there are adjustments.

I havn't used the statistical tie crap because it annoys, I won't use it whatever way it swings in the end.

It's hilarious you proclaim PS3 has won and we should all accept it, then talk about adjustments, as if they could only possibly benefit the PS3. Make your mind up.


What's it like up there in lala land?

My point still stands, you and pexus can't hack anything other than the overly positive and ' Sony HAS won' posts. I have no idea if there will be adjustments or not, or which way they'll go, so I'm not saying anything is under or overtracked, but they do happen ...



 

Carl on 31 December 2011

MS answer to the Sony cut was mass bundles, mass $100 giftcards all over the US and mass advertising with Kinect.

It almost worked. They put up a great fight, just like last Year, but it still wasnt enough (pre adjustments), to beat the PS3 for the Year.

Last Year they had Move and GT5 to fight against Halo, Fable, Kinect and "$500 million".

This Year they had a $50 cut and Uncharted 3 to fight against Forza, Gears, Kinect and mass $100 giftcard bundles.

Add in that the 360 has had exclusive advertising on the 2 biggest games of the Holidays in MW3 and Skyrim... You cant watch a TV channel without seeing a 360 advert at least once



                            

Seece on 31 December 2011
Carl2291 said:
MS answer to the Sony cut was mass bundles, mass $100 giftcards all over the US and mass advertising with Kinect.

You act like Sony got no bundles, and it didn't have 'mass $100 giftcards', a lot more than PS3 but not a mass amount. PS3 has been advertised way more in the UK than 360 and Kinect have. Whilst the X360 may have had more advertising in the US, remember US /= The World Carl.

It almost worked. They put up a great fight, just like last Year, but it still wasnt enough (pre adjustments), to beat the PS3 for the Year.

Last Year they had Move and GT5 to fight against Halo, Fable, Kinect and "$500 million".

And PS3 had no $$$ spent on advertising of course .. are you ignoring all the other exclusives PS3 had in 2010 0_0

This Year they had a $50 cut and Uncharted 3 to fight against Forza, Gears, Kinect and mass $100 giftcard bundles.

Again, forgetting all the other PS3 exclusives ... and a $50 cut WW for 5 months Vs some $100 giftcard bundles in the US

Add in that the 360 has had exclusive advertising on the 2 biggest games of the Holidays in MW3 and Skyrim... You cant watch a TV channel without seeing a 360 advert at least once





 

thismeintiel on 31 December 2011
Seece said:
thismeintiel said:
Seece said:
I must say pezus and thismential, you both seem very defensive over Sony being ahead as of now, like you don't want anyone to have an opinion other than 'fuck yeah SONY'

Lol, seems more like you and a few others don't like the fact that the PS3 came out on top.  So you have to come up with hypotheticals or talk about statistical ties.  I think you guys are going to like it even less if there are adjustments.

I havn't used the statistical tie crap because it annoys, I won't use it whatever way it swings in the end.

It's hilarious you proclaim PS3 has won and we should all accept it, then talk about adjustments, as if they could only possibly benefit the PS3. Make your mind up.


What's it like up there in lala land?

My point still stands, you and pexus can't hack anything other than the overly positive and ' Sony HAS won' posts. I have no idea if there will be adjustments or not, or which way they'll go, so I'm not saying anything is under or overtracked, but they do happen ...

Didn't say you specifically used statistical ties, but others who can't take the results have.  Or "moral victory" as Kowen put it.  My point about adjustments is that the PS3 has already won without adjustments.  If people don't like it, and hence are talking about statistical ties and these hypotheticals trying to belittle the PS3's success this year, they are going to be even more upset when any possible adjustments come in.