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Vetteman94 on 18 November 2011
chocoloco said:

Obvious joke post, but Telbow is probably the only 245 quarterback in the NFL and not many of the guys even come close in college.

Are you referring to his weight?   Cause if you are he is closer to the average size than you think.   He is listed at 236 on NFL.com.   There are quite a few QBs at that weight and larger.





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ljigga on 18 November 2011

Tebow is a beast, that is all



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chocoloco on 18 November 2011
Vetteman94 said:
chocoloco said:

Obvious joke post, but Telbow is probably the only 245 quarterback in the NFL and not many of the guys even come close in college.

Are you referring to his weight?   Cause if you are he is closer to the average size than you think.   He is listed at 236 on NFL.com.   There are quite a few QBs at that weight and larger.

Yes I was reffering to his weight in pounds. I thought in last nights broadcast the announcers said he weighed 245. Denver has Tebow listed at 235 lbs, so I might have heard wrong. The average weight is about 220 lbs, but when the weight is mostly muscle it makes a big difference.

To better put my ideas out, I would also say no quarterback is willing to sacrifice their body like Tebow right now and the only team so far to rough him up good was the Raiders. 15 pounds on a fast running quarterback adds a lot of force to a fast moving object. It is simple physics.



Vetteman94 on 18 November 2011
chocoloco said:
Vetteman94 said:
chocoloco said:

Obvious joke post, but Telbow is probably the only 245 quarterback in the NFL and not many of the guys even come close in college.

Are you referring to his weight?   Cause if you are he is closer to the average size than you think.   He is listed at 236 on NFL.com.   There are quite a few QBs at that weight and larger.

Yes I was reffering to his weight in pounds. I thought in last nights broadcast the announcers said he weighed 245. Denver has Tebow listed at 235 lbs, so I might have heard wrong. The average weight is about 220 lbs, but when the weight is mostly muscle it makes a big difference.

To better put my ideas out, I would also say no quarterback is willing to sacrifice their body like Tebow right now and the only team so far to rough him up good was the Raiders. 15 pounds on a fast running quarterback adds a lot of force to a fast moving object. It is simple physics.

No QB?   

Roethlisberger, Newton, Vick, Freeman dont exist in the same league? And if I had to guess I would say the average weight is higher than 220, probably closer to 230.  when Tom Brady who is as skinny as a they come, weighs in at 225.   Then you have Big Ben, Newton, and Freeman all pushing 250.  I think the smallest QB is Brees at 210.

Stop putting him on a pedestal,  he is an average RB who plays QB.  



chocoloco on 18 November 2011
Vetteman94 said:
chocoloco said:

Yes I was reffering to his weight in pounds. I thought in last nights broadcast the announcers said he weighed 245. Denver has Tebow listed at 235 lbs, so I might have heard wrong. The average weight is about 220 lbs, but when the weight is mostly muscle it makes a big difference.

To better put my ideas out, I would also say no quarterback is willing to sacrifice their body like Tebow right now and the only team so far to rough him up good was the Raiders. 15 pounds on a fast running quarterback adds a lot of force to a fast moving object. It is simple physics.

No QB?   

Roethlisberger, Newton, Vick, Freeman dont exist in the same league? And if I had to guess I would say the average weight is higher than 220, probably closer to 230.  when Tom Brady who is as skinny as a they come, weighs in at 225.   Then you have Big Ben, Newton, and Freeman all pushing 250.  I think the smallest QB is Brees at 210.

Stop putting him on a pedestal,  he is an average RB who plays QB.  

Since were talking about rushing to victory and sacrificing the body here is the stats on a NFL rushing leaders.

NFL Rushing leaders

Rk Player Team Pos Att Att/G Yds

34 Tim Tebow  DEN  QB 48  6.9  320  

145 Matt Hasselbeck TEN QB 9 1.0 38     

All players you mentioned are even lower on the list than Hasselback.



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Vetteman94 on 19 November 2011
chocoloco said:
Vetteman94 said:
chocoloco said:

Yes I was reffering to his weight in pounds. I thought in last nights broadcast the announcers said he weighed 245. Denver has Tebow listed at 235 lbs, so I might have heard wrong. The average weight is about 220 lbs, but when the weight is mostly muscle it makes a big difference.

To better put my ideas out, I would also say no quarterback is willing to sacrifice their body like Tebow right now and the only team so far to rough him up good was the Raiders. 15 pounds on a fast running quarterback adds a lot of force to a fast moving object. It is simple physics.

No QB?   

Roethlisberger, Newton, Vick, Freeman dont exist in the same league? And if I had to guess I would say the average weight is higher than 220, probably closer to 230.  when Tom Brady who is as skinny as a they come, weighs in at 225.   Then you have Big Ben, Newton, and Freeman all pushing 250.  I think the smallest QB is Brees at 210.

Stop putting him on a pedestal,  he is an average RB who plays QB.  

Since were talking about rushing to victory and sacrificing the body here is the stats on a NFL rushing leaders.

NFL Rushing leaders

Rk Player Team Pos Att Att/G Yds

34 Tim Tebow  DEN  QB 48  6.9  320  

145 Matt Hasselbeck TEN QB 9 1.0 38     

All players you mentioned are even lower on the list than Hasselback.

Big Ben has 62 yards. Cam Newton has 374 yards, Vick has 535 yards and Freeman has 142 yards.   All higher than Hasselbeck,  where you get your stats from?  

Tebow is a QB, look at his QB stats.  Thats why he isnt a real NFL QB.  



Chris Hu on 19 November 2011

Looking at the rest of the Colts schedule if they don't win next week against Carolina I think they will probably go 0-16 but you never know, I didn't think OSU would lose tonight against Iowa State either. Also the 49ers should be the first team to clinch a playoff spot this week.



amp316 on 19 November 2011

For once I agree with Vetteman. Tebow is a big QB, but not the biggest. He isn't in the league anymore but another guy that was much bigger than him was Dante Culpepper.

Hey Vetteman, why don't you show up to this thread when the Lions get the shit kicked out of them?



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outlawauron on 20 November 2011
amp316 said:
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How about those Broncos?! There goes Telbow again. The whole game was eh. Then the last five minutes, there's a 95 yard drive, and he runs 20 yards for the winning touchdown.

Edit: I should say the offense was eh. For both teams, really. Denver's defense had some great stops and a really good interception/fumble recovery.

Tebow still has a lot to prove. As long as his fans continue to spell his name wrong, it's hard to take him seriously.

1)  That play where he decides whether he's going to hand the ball off to the running back or keep it and run.

That's the read option.



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Blacksaber on 20 November 2011

I feel like an outcast in life by being a Jags fan...Though I have a very strong feeling if MJD leaves them I will lose all hope and go to my second team (Ravens) as my new fandom.



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