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Torillian on 23 September 2011
Soriku said:

Yeah, sure, the anime can be watched by anyone really because of fansubs but it was mainly made for Japan. If it wasn't it'd be localized. And many quality games don't sell well, or at least not 650k. How many threads on this site, or any others really, have the OP complaining that a quality game hasn't sold as well as it should?. Quality and word of mouth do help a game, but 650k, are you kidding me?

And I'm not a hater in any way possible, that's stupid. If I had a PS3 I would get VC for sure and I would still argue that the sales data is wrong, plain and simple. This has nothing to do with stupid biases or whatever you're thinking, I'm just being realistic. VC selling 650k in the Americas is not realistic. It just isn't the type of game that would do that, anime (which, again is JP only) or quality or whatnot. You can't tell me with a straight face that an RPG which sold 33k in its first month - with a surge later on, sure, but not something gigantic - sold 650k in a single region. It couldn't even do that in Japan even with an anime and "Best" release. Shouldn't VC have gotten a Greatest Hits by now too?


Now the Greatest Hits thing is an actual piece of evidence, but I don't know what the requirements are for a game to get that so I can't tell you if that means it didn't sell 650k.  

And I can absolutely say that with a straight face, though that's hard to prove over the internet.

 



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binary solo on 23 September 2011

OK, this thread filled up with debate over the accuracy of the sales figures when the OP expressly asked that people not turn this into just such an argument.

Please go away if you're just going to bring this thread down by arguing accuracy of the numbers. If you really don't believe it broke 1 million just leave those of us who love the game to our delusions. We're not hurting anyone with our alleged delusions. But people coming here and telling us we're deluded is hurting our souls.

So please go away, and leave us to party like it's 1939.



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Carl on 23 September 2011

binary solo hit the nail on the head.

It's a shame people can't just leave others to celebrate great sales of a fantastic game.



                            

Carl on 23 September 2011
Soriku said:
Carl2291 said:
binary solo hit the nail on the head.

It's a shame people can't just leave others to celebrate great sales of a fantastic game.


Celebrating sales that may not even exist? Ehh...OK.


Without proof, it's kinda like you're just trying to piss people off and ruin the thread.

Post proof or just shut up...



                            

novasonic on 23 September 2011

I just bought this brand new off amazon for $23.00 about a week ago. I did the prolog last night before bed, and will get into chapter 1 later tonight! Looks awesome so far.




8th gen predictions. (made early 2014)
PS4: 60-65m
WiiU: 30-35m
X1: 30-35m
3DS: 80-85m
PSV: 15-20m

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NYANKS on 23 September 2011

Best rpg this gen. Damn epic.



Carl on 23 September 2011
Soriku said:

Where's the Greatest Hits for VC then? Surely at 1 mil sales, it must have broken it. The criteria for GH is much less than 1 mil anyway...

Not to mention just saying "proof or shut up lol shut up" isn't a very compelling argument in this case when I could make up sales too and tell you to shut up because you have no proof that they're wrong...it's not like VGC is always right.


Does every game that passes that total get the GH version? There's about 80 games with the GH version (using your own Wikipedia example), despite there being over 100 Million sellers...

VGChartz is far, far more reliable than you, Soriku.

Like I said, post your proof if you want to discredit the numbers. I do it all the time, with proof. Problem - You have no proof at all that these numbers are wrong. If you're going to argue something, it's usually good to have some form of proof on your side...



                            

Carl on 23 September 2011
Soriku said:

I edited my post. If it's just NA then 80 games is about right. Though I don't know why Disgaea 3 is on that list...

650k is ridiculous for an RPG in NA (barring FF/KH/Pokemon and a few games like Paper Mario) that wasn't advertised no matter how you spin it, proof or no proof. VGC isn't perfect, and I do recall even outlawauron mentioning that VGC has overtracked a lot of RPGs in the past. Believe what you want though.


Word of mouth works a whole lot more than you'd imagine. Especially on a console that was deprived of quality JRPG's, full of a userbase that wants quality JRPG's.

I've sold the game to about 4 people myself...

Edit: Also, the game had numerous ad campaigns on PSN itself, when every bit of DLC was released.



                            

Jay520 on 23 September 2011

@Soriku

You are underestimating the informed market of the PS3.



Carl on 23 September 2011
Soriku said:

Even with high word of mouth, you can't just have an RPG in this market sell several hundred thousand copies just like that. Several ten thousand is probably unprecedented, and it happened for VC, but the gap between that and the current sales VGC has now that VC supposedly crawled to over nearly 3 years is just too great to be possible.

PSN advertising is too minor to make a big difference.


It hasn't been "just like that" though, really. It's been Years. It had one big Holiday season that came from nowhere and it sold about 200k or something. If it was overtracked, it's likely during that point. Is there a chance it is, yeah? Can we know by how much, where, when, without proof? No.

It's pointless arguing about it without proof.