TeddostheFireKing said:
GuiltySpartan77 said: Honestly i see the USA as a super power still but i was born and raised here so i am biased on that view. Although i have been against the United States relying so much on China for borrowing purposes. Anyway The US technically isn't weaker, As some Europeans like to think. For example if North America was to fight a war with another country other than current middle east who do you think would win? let me get more specific The US is backed by Multiple powerful nations like the UK, Japan, pretty much all of the EU, and Even Australia, and to a lesser extent India and South America. Economically yes the US has weakened but what country hasn't felt the effects of the Economy? (other than China and India). So you have to dig a little deeper to really understand what position the US is in right now. |
I'd like to point out that these nations are currently are only ones who could compete with the USA on a technological level (with the exception of Russia who is still quite powerful), most nations engaging with a war with America are signifcantly smaller and less well armed, so for a fair fight, it would really have to be either USA vs. Russia, USA vs. the EU or USA vs. China imo. If one of those happened, I don't think the fight would be so one sided.
@ OP: America is simply percieved to be weaker now than it was at the end of the Cold War
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Not as onesided....
but still pretty onesided. Assuming we're taling covnentional warfare, since nuclear warfare would just mean everyone loses, just some people lose harder.
Anyway to handle them one at a time.
1) The Chinese. They lack force projection. A war vs China would basically involve the US invading and the chinese defending, and that's it, because the Chinese have no way to get any of their troops to the US. There navy would get handled fairly quickly and it'd devolve into a case of America bombing China until China gives into US demands, or America stops bombing china due to it's people getting sick of the war. You could technically call the 2nds a chinese victory, but I mean, considering the destruction to china's economy and basically no real effect on the US, it'd be quite the phyrric one.
2) The Russians. Not as powerful as they were when they were the USSR, and are actually falling behind the chinese in some military technologies, not enough ports for force projection or a good enough economy to handle the war.
3) EU. Well to start with, the EU is a bunch of different countries. So despite having a larger armed forces. I think it's like more then double the US size... it would be fractured as the EU countries squabbeled over what actions to take, where to defend, and whose forces should be sent to die where.
They can't even agree on a unified fiscal policy afterall. Outside that, there techonology is a step behind the US with a lot of the best stuff coming from the US. Note how the EU called in the US to fight their war in Libya for them having the US send in their planes and rockets to take out all the anti-aircraft defenses before they took over airspace. It's even more telling that Obama agreed to it, when if anything the last thing he wanted to do was get involved in another war in the "Middle East". (Northern Africa counts.) Afterall, Libya was basically nothing more then a more competantly done Iraq. Basically what that tells you is... the EU wasn't confident that it could take out all of Libya's anti-aircraft weaponry without losing a plane.
The EU would have to get organized, basically agree on one military leader and then go out of it's way to reequip and retrain most of the Europeon Union army. It'd be a logistics nightmare...
and that's assuming that the UK doesn't take one look at the situation and decideto sit out to avoid the political and military unitedness that they've already avoided when it came to the Euro.
The UK is by far the most valuable country in a US vs UK war because of the UK's outstanding navy. If the UK went nuetral or even swtiched sides... it'd be all over.
It'd probably be the hardest challenge, but it'd probably be a lot less trouble them most would think.