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mjk45 said:

in Sony's case it seems like once bitten twice shy, I wonder if they had a clause inserted in there payout like MS did in regards to Sony winning /losing it case over dual shock patents.

 I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's payout was in the ballpark of what MS's legal bill ended up.

didn't think about



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MrBubbles said:
mjk45 said:

in Sony's case it seems like once bitten twice shy, I wonder if they had a clause inserted in there payout like MS did in regards to Sony winning /losing it case over dual shock patents.

 I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's payout was in the ballpark of what MS's legal bill ended up.


sadly, its more than just the end sum for sony and microsoft.   this also helps make sony look like easy pickings to other patent trolls out there and provides these particular trolls with money to fund their other schemes.

great counter but its likely going to be a law suit in which both companies get sued eitherway.



brendude13 said:
mjk45 said:
yo_john117 said:
Wow it's so sad that something like that would take 6 years to settle.

Even sadder is the same six years it takes to settle a fatal car accident claim when the driver drunk at the time runs down two females at a bus stop while they waited to catch a bus  early morning , one being my wife dies and the other her sister spends 3 months in hospital with multiple fractures to her legs, a broken pelvis broken left arm, broken jaw all her front teeth removed two large rods inserted to support her legs eventually removed and he pleaded guilty, the Insurer finally made a settlement six years latter on the front step of the court house the day of the trial, according to my sister in laws Lawyer the amount was pretty much what she would have been awarded if it went to judgement and the Insurer was always going to pay up so why six years ?.

I'm sorry man.

That's terrible. What was his sentence?

He was sentenced  3 months after the accident to 6 months prison and 7 years loss of licence. At the time in my State ,when you got a jail term you automatically got 1/3rd taken off for good behaviour plus you could apply for parole after 50% of your sentence  the trouble being  the 50%  of sentence was calculated  as being what remained after your good behaviour  so you  could apply for parole after completing 1/3rd of your sentence so if you got a 3 year sentence you could be out in 12months, another problem was the 1/3rd off for good behaviour was automatically deducted, but if you say assaulted a guard etc you might go to court and receive a 3 month addition to your sentence ( average for prison guard assaults ) but they never revoked  the good behaviour it was seen as part of your day one sentence and a right rather than the carrot it was intended to be and to rub salt into the wound the 3 month's extra would also get a 3rd cut off it .

in his case he served 4 months



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mjk45 said:
brendude13 said:
mjk45 said:
yo_john117 said:
Wow it's so sad that something like that would take 6 years to settle.

Even sadder is the same six years it takes to settle a fatal car accident claim when the driver drunk at the time runs down two females at a bus stop while they waited to catch a bus  early morning , one being my wife dies and the other her sister spends 3 months in hospital with multiple fractures to her legs, a broken pelvis broken left arm, broken jaw all her front teeth removed two large rods inserted to support her legs eventually removed and he pleaded guilty, the Insurer finally made a settlement six years latter on the front step of the court house the day of the trial, according to my sister in laws Lawyer the amount was pretty much what she would have been awarded if it went to judgement and the Insurer was always going to pay up so why six years ?.

I'm sorry man.

That's terrible. What was his sentence?

He was sentenced  3 months after the accident to 6 months prison and 7 years loss of licence. At the time in my State ,when you got a jail term you automatically got 1/3rd taken off for good behaviour plus you could apply for parole after 50% of your sentence  the trouble being  the 50%  of sentence was calculated  as being what remained after your good behaviour  so you  could apply for parole after completing 1/3rd of your sentence so if you got a 3 year sentence you could be out in 12months, another problem was the 1/3rd off for good behaviour was automatically deducted, but if you say assaulted a guard etc you might go to court and receive a 3 month addition to your sentence ( average for prison guard assaults ) but they never revoked  the good behaviour it was seen as part of your day one sentence and a right rather than the carrot it was intended to be and to rub salt into the wound the 3 month's extra would also get a 3rd cut off it .

in his case he served 4 months

He got 4 months!?

What he did was as good as murder, that is a pathetic sentence.



brendude13 said:
mjk45 said:
brendude13 said:
mjk45 said:
yo_john117 said:
Wow it's so sad that something like that would take 6 years to settle.

Even sadder is the same six years it takes to settle a fatal car accident claim when the driver drunk at the time runs down two females at a bus stop while they waited to catch a bus  early morning , one being my wife dies and the other her sister spends 3 months in hospital with multiple fractures to her legs, a broken pelvis broken left arm, broken jaw all her front teeth removed two large rods inserted to support her legs eventually removed and he pleaded guilty, the Insurer finally made a settlement six years latter on the front step of the court house the day of the trial, according to my sister in laws Lawyer the amount was pretty much what she would have been awarded if it went to judgement and the Insurer was always going to pay up so why six years ?.

I'm sorry man.

That's terrible. What was his sentence?

He was sentenced  3 months after the accident to 6 months prison and 7 years loss of licence. At the time in my State ,when you got a jail term you automatically got 1/3rd taken off for good behaviour plus you could apply for parole after 50% of your sentence  the trouble being  the 50%  of sentence was calculated  as being what remained after your good behaviour  so you  could apply for parole after completing 1/3rd of your sentence so if you got a 3 year sentence you could be out in 12months, another problem was the 1/3rd off for good behaviour was automatically deducted, but if you say assaulted a guard etc you might go to court and receive a 3 month addition to your sentence ( average for prison guard assaults ) but they never revoked  the good behaviour it was seen as part of your day one sentence and a right rather than the carrot it was intended to be and to rub salt into the wound the 3 month's extra would also get a 3rd cut off it .

in his case he served 4 months

He got 4 months!?

What he did was as good as murder, that is a pathetic sentence.

Yep ,but  he seemed repentant and i don't think serving a longer term in his case would have helped him and more importantly his family and mine , still it always seems to be about the criminal and not the victim and this can and does lead to "Poor me I'm a victim too" ,i have seen cases where the lawyer or client have had the gall to say that they are the real victim here ,no remorse no repentance it's all about them, still the past is the past and i can't change it.

Talking about the law, on a side note. When the ambulance arrived  at the scene my wife was dead but her sister was barley alive at that point but they took my wife in the first ambulance and her sister waited another 10-15 minutes for the second ambulance to arrive,when I quizzed them about this later , Why my sister in-law on the brink didn't get priority they said in cases of multiple accident patients policy stated that you took the most critical patient and that was  my wife even though she was already deceased .



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mjk45 said:
brendude13 said:
mjk45 said:
brendude13 said:
mjk45 said:
yo_john117 said:
Wow it's so sad that something like that would take 6 years to settle.

Even sadder is the same six years it takes to settle a fatal car accident claim when the driver drunk at the time runs down two females at a bus stop while they waited to catch a bus  early morning , one being my wife dies and the other her sister spends 3 months in hospital with multiple fractures to her legs, a broken pelvis broken left arm, broken jaw all her front teeth removed two large rods inserted to support her legs eventually removed and he pleaded guilty, the Insurer finally made a settlement six years latter on the front step of the court house the day of the trial, according to my sister in laws Lawyer the amount was pretty much what she would have been awarded if it went to judgement and the Insurer was always going to pay up so why six years ?.

I'm sorry man.

That's terrible. What was his sentence?

He was sentenced  3 months after the accident to 6 months prison and 7 years loss of licence. At the time in my State ,when you got a jail term you automatically got 1/3rd taken off for good behaviour plus you could apply for parole after 50% of your sentence  the trouble being  the 50%  of sentence was calculated  as being what remained after your good behaviour  so you  could apply for parole after completing 1/3rd of your sentence so if you got a 3 year sentence you could be out in 12months, another problem was the 1/3rd off for good behaviour was automatically deducted, but if you say assaulted a guard etc you might go to court and receive a 3 month addition to your sentence ( average for prison guard assaults ) but they never revoked  the good behaviour it was seen as part of your day one sentence and a right rather than the carrot it was intended to be and to rub salt into the wound the 3 month's extra would also get a 3rd cut off it .

in his case he served 4 months

He got 4 months!?

What he did was as good as murder, that is a pathetic sentence.

Yep ,but  he seemed repentant and i don't think serving a longer term in his case would have helped him and more importantly his family and mine , still it always seems to be about the criminal and not the victim and this can and does lead to "Poor me I'm a victim too" ,i have seen cases where the lawyer or client have had the gall to say that they are the real victim here ,no remorse no repentance it's all about them, still the past is the past and i can't change it.

Talking about the law, on a side note. When the ambulance arrived  at the scene my wife was dead but her sister was barley alive at that point but they took my wife in the first ambulance and her sister waited another 10-15 minutes for the second ambulance to arrive,when I quizzed them about this later , Why my sister in-law on the brink didn't get priority they said in cases of multiple accident patients policy stated that you took the most critical patient and that was  my wife even though she was already deceased .

wow, man, that story makes me want to cry. i feel for you. i cant even imagine what you went/go through. it must have been so tuff.

it does show that although we have comparatively a good legal system, its still screws up big time, and the guy deserved 25 to life. but a side question, have you managed to forgive the guy. is he sorry, has he reached out to try to make ammends



mjk45 said:
yo_john117 said:
Wow it's so sad that something like that would take 6 years to settle.

Even sadder is the same six years it takes to settle a fatal car accident claim when the driver drunk at the time runs down two females at a bus stop while they waited to catch a bus  early morning , one being my wife dies and the other her sister spends 3 months in hospital with multiple fractures to her legs, a broken pelvis broken left arm, broken jaw all her front teeth removed two large rods inserted to support her legs eventually removed and he pleaded guilty, the Insurer finally made a settlement six years latter on the front step of the court house the day of the trial, according to my sister in laws Lawyer the amount was pretty much what she would have been awarded if it went to judgment and the Insurer was always going to pay up so why six years ?.

Wow that is just sad :/

Our justice system really is messed up.



mjk45 said:

Yep ,but  he seemed repentant and i don't think serving a longer term in his case would have helped him and more importantly his family and mine , still it always seems to be about the criminal and not the victim and this can and does lead to "Poor me I'm a victim too" ,i have seen cases where the lawyer or client have had the gall to say that they are the real victim here ,no remorse no repentance it's all about them, still the past is the past and i can't change it.

Talking about the law, on a side note. When the ambulance arrived  at the scene my wife was dead but her sister was barley alive at that point but they took my wife in the first ambulance and her sister waited another 10-15 minutes for the second ambulance to arrive,when I quizzed them about this later , Why my sister in-law on the brink didn't get priority they said in cases of multiple accident patients policy stated that you took the most critical patient and that was  my wife even though she was already deceased .

It's almost as if you've forgiven him, I could never do that.

And that's pretty bad, it annoys me that people (especially emergency workers) always have to follow the book instead of using their common sense.

Anyway, I'm sorry man, I would hate to be put through that.



wow...lasted 10 years....



I doubt MS doesn't have a full time attorney even a bunch of them for that kind of issues.... I mean they are sued 24/7 all year round.... and Sony too so in that case, I think Sony lost more money than MS on that one....

and about the sad story I agree with you 25 to life would have been ridiculous it won't help anybody (like you said your family or him) and bottom line we are the one paying for their stay in jail.... I mean you are not gonna put a guy that drunk drives and fucks up big time with the same sentence than a serial rapist or an international drug lord it doesn't make any sens doesn't serve the purpose and cost money....

I mean realistically 80% of the people that drink here could be in the drivers seat.... we probably all have driven at least once when we shouldn't have and luckily we didn't mess up..... but think about it 2 second.... society and the guy would be better off if he goes to AA meetings and to have to do social work with car accident victims than be in jail with real thugs.... jail time is not for the victim to have a legal vengeance on the defendant on par with their pain.... it's a natural reaction but not the purpose of the legal system otherwise we'd have more people in jail than out....

morality if you are not in shape take a cab it is couple bucks that can change the rest of your life and not influence others.....