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NinjaguyDan on 02 September 2011

The concept of hell is a a psychological device that keeps the poor from murdering the rich.



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Jicale on 02 September 2011

With out Hell you couldn't scare the common people into believing the right thing to do is give all their money to the church



snakenobi on 03 September 2011
DélioPT said:
snakenobi said:

I have been reading alot about different religions and how they describe afterlife.

Western religions state that there is eternal heaven or hell afterlife and the eastern side believes in nirvana(equivalent to heaven) and rebirth(they think repeated rebirths are as good as hell).

The problem is that they say afterlife is dependent on your deeds in this life.

What I don't understand is who define's what deed is good and what deed is bad?

Our society defines what is good or bad according to the time period in which we live in.Simple example - nudity and greed was seen as something else before than what it is seen as today.And as we all know,good and bad are very much effected by the economic condition of this world.

We can all go back to the old moral values that life should be just about benefiting humanity but where does that leave room for enjoyment if we are just working.I mean whats the point of living.

The question here is why does GOD have to create such a world where we just fight each other based on money and work.Its like we are his playtoys.Some people here might argue and say he is just testing us but why is he testing us,for his own enjoyment?

 

 

I strongly believe in afterlife but have serious problems figuring the connection between rebirth and previous life and your status that you get after rebirth.The western religions way of heaven is much easier than eastern religions but fact that once we go in heaven,what do we do out there?If there is no time then how will we enjoy things in heaven as time is closely related with what you do with your life.

The first premise of "why hell?" is: Matthew 25:41
"The question here is why does GOD have to create such a world where we just fight each other based on money and work"
That`s not the world God made. God made us of free will, a heart and a mind. It`s what you do with them that matters.

If men to this day still can`t make uo their mind on what is good and bad, i don`t think a person should rely too much on humanity.
Look at it this way. If right and wrong are changing time after time, what exactly is changing? The meaning or the existance of such values?
There are many sources that claim what is good and what is wrong.
I could say that God being good made us in His image therefore, at our very core, not only resides the true definition of goodness but that in the end isn`t that what people yearn?

Look closely and you`ll find your answers.

"once we go in heaven,what do we do out there?"
No one knows.


sure but he would know that the world will evolve and one day we would have an economic system and people fighting for it.

now if you don't comply to that then what as you have to comply and services to earn a living and be happy,so you have to fight

 

i have looked closely and i am about to go bonkers figuring it out

ethe more religions and their way of life i explore the more i am getting confused



DélioPT on 03 September 2011
snakenobi said:


sure but he would know that the world will evolve and one day we would have an economic system and people fighting for it.

now if you don't comply to that then what as you have to comply and services to earn a living and be happy,so you have to fight

 

i have looked closely and i am about to go bonkers figuring it out

ethe more religions and their way of life i explore the more i am getting confused


He knew what could happen, yes. But the bottom line is: do you want to be forced to love? We may fight but we don`t need to. It`s not an impossibility to not fight like it is to fly. There are people who live their lives working, and while there might be some bad trying to corrupt them, they live their lives on the good side.
It`s not the relationship between us that is wrong, it`s how we place ourselves in it that changes everything. The economic aspect is just a part of life.
What God wants is a sincere and open hearted relationship with us. You can`t force that, it has to come naturally.

What are you confused about?



S____M____C____C on 03 September 2011

I think people look into specifics too much when it comes to religion.

I personally believe that there is one God, that most religions on Earth are following, just in different ways and based on different sources and texts.

I mean, most religions preach love. I believe that love is Gods presence in the Earth.

So, my advice would be to not go into too much detail about specific religions. Just embrace the love, believe and enjoy life.