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killerzX on 02 September 2011
slowmo said:
killerzX said:
slowmo said:
killerzX said:
 

also what is the huge gameplay changes between the Halo games

note: im not saying they have non, as i have not played halo, im merely wanting to know what constitutes enough gameplay changes to warrent a good game to you.


I don't want to get into your overall debate but there have been some significant evolutions in Halo gameplay over the years, some people have liked others they didn't.  These are just some examples so you get the general idea and it isn't even including multiplayer changes just core gameplay differences:

For example:

In Halo 2 they introduced the dual wield option which allowed you to have more firepower at the expense of melee and grenades.  This also allowed you to be tactical in your mix of guns for example so you could have a plasma weapon to strip shields then a ballistic weapon to cause more damage to the flesh of an enemy.

In Halo 2 they introduced the ability to board vehicles that were nearby and occupied by an enemy

Halo 2 introduced the Arbiter character which had cloak ability

Halo 2 changed from a hit point healtyh bar to a regenerating health system with the health bar not displayed.

Halo 3 added two handed power weapons that produced movement penalties while also fully rebalancing all weapons.

Halo 3 introduced quipment such as the ancillary bubble shield, lifts, decoys, etc

ODST completely changed the gameplay by having you play as a new character with less emphasis on tanking and more on stealth and tactically taking down superior enemy numbers.

Reach added armour bonuses such as sprint, jet packs, armour lock, etc

Reach regressed back to the old non regenerating health in keeping with the armour properties of the first game

Reach gameplay was balanced to be more in line with the original Halo Combat Evolved.

Reach changed up the core single player gameplay to introduce some new vehicles we hadn't used before also.

 

From the above you might gather Halo is actually one of the worst games series you could have signified as not changing from game to game as there has always been a push from Bungie to evolve the series and build on their success.  That's what good studios do of course and Naughty Dog are no exception has your very thorough list showed ealier.

 

you got it wrong, he was the one who mentioned halo. so i was wondering what changed about it, not because i didnt think it changed, but because i didnt know what did.

also i was more talking the changes between reach and 3. and it seemed most of the evolution of the series happened in the earlier games, which is to be expected.

but my point was, that uncharted 3 has added some of the most new things between entries in the series than most any other series.

and to call it a copy and paste rehash after a 4 minute trailer of Drake fighting guys while falling out of a burning crashing planes, is idiotic. and it is clear that, he has put little to no time in playing the Uncharted series

I apologise for saying "you" in reference to mentioning Halo, I should have probably used a more generic term such as "Halo is one of the worst examples of unchanging gameplay".  I figured you probably didn't play much Halo so wouldn't know how it had changed a lot over time hence why I gave you a quick update on the sort of advances made and why he might seem to thing ther was more or less than he is assuming is happening with Uncharted.  In fairness I mentioned single player as that seemed to be the other guys focus but there was actually a lot more changes between Reach and 3 in the multiplayer side.  There was big evolutions in the Forge map editor, more online modes, Firefight got added.  There was other changes too but you get the general idea that I was more talking big general gameplay differences across the single player game rather than the numerous evbolutions the online has made in Halo.

I'm not disagreeing that Uncharted 3 is going to build on the previous game with some significant tweaks, it is actually my most anticipated game after Gears 3.  That's really saying something as I'm a huge Assassins Creed and Mass Effect fan too.  I dare say I'd go as far as to say it was worth buying my PS3 just for the Uncharted games alone I enjoyed them so much .  I would like more of the same as Uncharted 2 but I have every faith that come play time anything they've tweaked will be to add to the experience.

As for the last sentence I was just giving you some guidance on what sorts of changes Halo has gone through I really don't want to get involved in saying who is right or wrong as I don't actually think it matters in the grand scheme of things.  When you've been here a while you kind of learn to just go meh and move on as you can't convince some people to see a different viewpoint or understand yours.

good to know (about halo that is)

and about my last sentance, if you thought i was talking about you being idiotic or something, i sincerly apologize. i was talking about the other guy saying that uncharted hasnt changed/ it a tired rehash stuff. you said no such thing, and im sorry for any misunderstanding, i didnt make myself clear



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binary solo on 03 September 2011

Uncharted 3 can't have much of a gameplay change over Uncharted 2, because Uncharted 2 had it all! Running, jumping, climbing, shooting, stealth kills, melee combat, shooting while hanging, throwing grenades while hanging, fighting on moving vehicles...I'm probably forgetting a few gameplay elements. What other action game has all these things?

If Uncharted 3 adds to this list then that's amazing. If it just refines these existing elements from Uncharted 2 then that's great.

But there's the leaping meelee takedown. That's new gameplay. And it's awesome to be doing flying body slams in a non-wrestling game.



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binary solo on 03 September 2011
slowmo said:
ishiki said:
I do think they should put co-op in. When there's the other character. Like if Elena is there, the 2nd player could control her.

I think Mass Effect should implement this too.

but neither will >_<


I'd love someone to actually incorporate good coop into a RPG genre as it's something that hasn't really been fully utilized yet imo.  I know there is examples and I do of course mean while still keeping the single player experience and not turning it into a pseudo MMORPG.

Completly off topic of course, but Neverwinter Nights 2, and Icewindale 1 and 2 are RPGs with great online co-op.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

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Icyedge on 03 September 2011
slowmo said:
ishiki said:
I do think they should put co-op in. When there's the other character. Like if Elena is there, the 2nd player could control her.

I think Mass Effect should implement this too.

but neither will >_<


I'd love someone to actually incorporate good coop into a RPG genre as it's something that hasn't really been fully utilized yet imo.  I know there is examples and I do of course mean while still keeping the single player experience and not turning it into a pseudo MMORPG.

That would be a good idea, something like secret of mana did back in the SNES days.



Troll_Whisperer on 03 September 2011
worldlyfall said:
 

First of all i was not arguing with anyone, i gave my opinion on the video that was being shown and i said i wasnt impressed by it at all. I also said i dont get why uncharted 3 is getting so much hype when its gameplay is basically the same. You don't need to play a whole lot of a game to know if the gameplay has changed from its last installment. As for MP  i admit i dont know much about uncharted 3 MP cause i did not play a whole lot of it. But i said it many times and ill say it agian since you people just like to attack, the mp in uncharted 3 is revamped from the last one. The kill streak and player customization where the things that stood out for me. MP changes do not equal gameplay changes, so i have no idea why people brought up MP when they were replying to my post. You think i did not  play uncharted fine go ahead think what you want. I gave my opinion that is what matters to me. If you dont like you can't do nothing about it. I wont be replying back to anymore response from anyone anymore about this. The sony defense force seems to be in full swing, cant handle people getting angry with me calling me dumb for my opinion, yes i made a mistake i am sorry said it many friggin times before. Didnt know one thing, a MP thing and apparently i am a stupid fanboy troll. Shit give me a break. Next time i will know not to give my opinon about uncharted cause if its not a good one it deserves to be shitted on.

I think you are judging the game way too quickly when we haven't seen much and what we have seen was greatly improved (MP).

ND have confirmed quite a few improvements in U3:

 

-More stealth options (being able to jump on enemies from above, etc.)

-More melee movements and variety.

-Being able to use melee with several enemies at once instead of 1 by 1.

-More contextual movements and possibilities, like grabbing bottles to use against your enemies, etc.

-Refined animations and interaction.

-Less linearity and more possible approaches in the levels.

-Being able to shoot while platforming (climbing walls, walking on beams, etc.).

-The desert setting will feature unique gameplay tied to the properties of sand like sandstorms, mirages, heat haze,etc

-Much, much improved multiplayer (not gonna enter into detail, others have made whole lists already).

 

And maybe more things we yet don't know about...

 

I think we can safely say that the improvements are more than enough to justify a sequel, especially when it's a sequel to one of the most acclaimed games in history.



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