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Jay520 on 04 September 2011
VXIII said:

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Exactly, your post summarizes how the game has been coming along.

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vlad321 on 04 September 2011
Joelcool7 said:
vlad321 said:
Biggest one I can think of: PC Gaming is expensive.


Umm having tried to do PC gaming for a few years and not being able to do so financially. I'd say that PC gaming is expensive. In fact I spent almost two grand in like two years trying to keep my PC capable of playing the latest games (Back in the early millennium) but then turned to consoles I could afford all three at a cheaper cost then it cost to upgrade my PC. Guess what I haven't spent much since , all three consoles give me more then enough games. More games then that 1,000 a year computer ever could. Now I hear PC gaming has gotten much cheaper however I went to the store and tried buying a gaming laptop that could play Crysis2, StarCraft2 and ShogunTotalWar2 and I was told I could go with a 800$ one, however further questioning revealed that I would probably suffer lag and such and if I really wanted to experience the games at their best it would cost about 1,200$ for a good gaming laptop. Even that 1,200$ one isn't state of the art look at Alien Ware's gaming laptops you want one state of the art that will be playing games a year or two from now and your talking way over 1,000$.

Now I was also told a 500$ laptop would probably be able to play a lot of games very laggy and such but they would be playable. But honestly I could buy a new PS3 and a few games for cheaper. The PS3 would give me nearly state of the art graphics and a lot more games to choose from.

PC gaming is just plain expensive. For somebody who makes only 500$ a month after rent and about 300$ after bills. I really don't have 1,200$ to spend on a high end gaming laptop or the 500$ to spend on a low end laptop that probably won't be able to play the games I want as good as I want!


So first you started to say you spend $1k a year for a PC, and then you went to gaming laptops? I am sorry if I don't take you seriously.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Mordred11 on 04 September 2011
VXIII said:

Cheer up! , they're making PREPARATIONS to enter Full Production ... after FIVE YEARS , that's something, right ? :D

That's great news!



rf40928 on 04 September 2011

i think this is a worn out topic.. but most Xbox non-fans like to bring up how XBlive cost 59.99 a year.. but from a relaibility stand point and features Live simply has more to offer.. they usually have it first.. they had netflix almost 2 yrs before PSN and the first year PSN had to use a netflix disc.. and although PSN has a sports equivalent , I like ESPN on XB Live..

If you can't afford 59.99 a year ( only 4.99 a month ) you honestly have no business buying expensive video  games multiple times a year for your console.. because if you already can't afford to EAT....an additional $4.99 a month might mean you cant afford to SLEEP ?!

I spend more money on a week of drinking 'mountain dew' soda then i do on a month of Xbox Live.. Im pretty sure the average person spends more money weekly on pretty trivial stuff as well.. my brother buys a new game for his PS3, Xbox 360, Wii almost monthly..  If you're doing well enough to buy alot of games yearly then the PSN free / Xb Live cost argument holds little value because GAMING is not a necessity, its entertainment and entertainment is never free.. If you buy a console to play  ONE game you love such as those who play COD ( therefore meaning you can waste money to buy a console to play a single game ) it means nothing.. If you own all three consoles like my brother.. it means nothing.. If you own a PS3 and want to say how MUCH of a rip off 4.99 a month is I guess thats fine..



VXIII on 04 September 2011
Jay520 said:
VXIII said:

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Exactly, your post summarizes how the game has been coming along.

Eh, seriously, the game was on hold in 2008 because of XIII , and now again because of XIII-2 , the team was developing KH:BBS and (KH: random number/2 or 3) ... and still developing Dream, Drop, Distance. It's just management problems , Versus never got its time ( or budget ) yet but it's coming.



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Mummelmann on 04 September 2011
vlad321 said:
Joelcool7 said:
vlad321 said:
Biggest one I can think of: PC Gaming is expensive.


Umm having tried to do PC gaming for a few years and not being able to do so financially. I'd say that PC gaming is expensive. In fact I spent almost two grand in like two years trying to keep my PC capable of playing the latest games (Back in the early millennium) but then turned to consoles I could afford all three at a cheaper cost then it cost to upgrade my PC. Guess what I haven't spent much since , all three consoles give me more then enough games. More games then that 1,000 a year computer ever could. Now I hear PC gaming has gotten much cheaper however I went to the store and tried buying a gaming laptop that could play Crysis2, StarCraft2 and ShogunTotalWar2 and I was told I could go with a 800$ one, however further questioning revealed that I would probably suffer lag and such and if I really wanted to experience the games at their best it would cost about 1,200$ for a good gaming laptop. Even that 1,200$ one isn't state of the art look at Alien Ware's gaming laptops you want one state of the art that will be playing games a year or two from now and your talking way over 1,000$.

Now I was also told a 500$ laptop would probably be able to play a lot of games very laggy and such but they would be playable. But honestly I could buy a new PS3 and a few games for cheaper. The PS3 would give me nearly state of the art graphics and a lot more games to choose from.

PC gaming is just plain expensive. For somebody who makes only 500$ a month after rent and about 300$ after bills. I really don't have 1,200$ to spend on a high end gaming laptop or the 500$ to spend on a low end laptop that probably won't be able to play the games I want as good as I want!


So first you started to say you spend $1k a year for a PC, and then you went to gaming laptops? I am sorry if I don't take you seriously.

Yeah, gaming laptops are like giant midgets; useless in and on themselves. Buy a stationary for games, its really that simple. And what's this about having to upgrade year to "play the new games"? My PC is now almost exactly four years old and I haven't upgraded a single thing (bought myself a new monitor a few weeks back but that wasn't in any way required, I simply wanted it), not even the GPU or added more RAM and I play new games just fine.

If you know what you're doing and make an effort to research the market a little bit, PC's are easy. And to everyone saying; "But, I don't know how to do this or that or build or upgrade a rig." etc. Who in the world doesn't know someone who does? Its not that hard, really. Especially given that hardware prices in the US (where most of you come from) are half the price of what costs here, the whole myth about having to shell out a fortune every year is plain bullshit in my honest opinion.



vlad321 on 04 September 2011
Mummelmann said:
vlad321 said:
Joelcool7 said:
vlad321 said:
Biggest one I can think of: PC Gaming is expensive.


Umm having tried to do PC gaming for a few years and not being able to do so financially. I'd say that PC gaming is expensive. In fact I spent almost two grand in like two years trying to keep my PC capable of playing the latest games (Back in the early millennium) but then turned to consoles I could afford all three at a cheaper cost then it cost to upgrade my PC. Guess what I haven't spent much since , all three consoles give me more then enough games. More games then that 1,000 a year computer ever could. Now I hear PC gaming has gotten much cheaper however I went to the store and tried buying a gaming laptop that could play Crysis2, StarCraft2 and ShogunTotalWar2 and I was told I could go with a 800$ one, however further questioning revealed that I would probably suffer lag and such and if I really wanted to experience the games at their best it would cost about 1,200$ for a good gaming laptop. Even that 1,200$ one isn't state of the art look at Alien Ware's gaming laptops you want one state of the art that will be playing games a year or two from now and your talking way over 1,000$.

Now I was also told a 500$ laptop would probably be able to play a lot of games very laggy and such but they would be playable. But honestly I could buy a new PS3 and a few games for cheaper. The PS3 would give me nearly state of the art graphics and a lot more games to choose from.

PC gaming is just plain expensive. For somebody who makes only 500$ a month after rent and about 300$ after bills. I really don't have 1,200$ to spend on a high end gaming laptop or the 500$ to spend on a low end laptop that probably won't be able to play the games I want as good as I want!


So first you started to say you spend $1k a year for a PC, and then you went to gaming laptops? I am sorry if I don't take you seriously.

Yeah, gaming laptops are like giant midgets; useless in and on themselves. Buy a stationary for games, its really that simple. And what's this about having to upgrade year to "play the new games"? My PC is now almost exactly four years old and I haven't upgraded a single thing (bought myself a new monitor a few weeks back but that wasn't in any way required, I simply wanted it), not even the GPU or added more RAM and I play new games just fine.

If you know what you're doing and make an effort to research the market a little bit, PC's are easy. And to everyone saying; "But, I don't know how to do this or that or build or upgrade a rig." etc. Who in the world doesn't know someone who does? Its not that hard, really. Especially given that hardware prices in the US (where most of you come from) are half the price of what costs here, the whole myth about having to shell out a fortune every year is plain bullshit in my honest opinion.

PCs are like LEGOs. If you know how to read, all you have to do is read up on what parts you need/want for your build, make sure they fit, and then plug the things in the correct holes. I never realized LEGO required so much mental prowess, or that reading is so hard.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

ctalkeb on 04 September 2011

Portable gaming is all about pick-up-and-play and five minute playtimes.

This hasn't been true since the original Game Boy and isn't any truer now.



Joelcool7 on 04 September 2011
vlad321 said:
Joelcool7 said:
vlad321 said:
Biggest one I can think of: PC Gaming is expensive.


Umm having tried to do PC gaming for a few years and not being able to do so financially. I'd say that PC gaming is expensive. In fact I spent almost two grand in like two years trying to keep my PC capable of playing the latest games (Back in the early millennium) but then turned to consoles I could afford all three at a cheaper cost then it cost to upgrade my PC. Guess what I haven't spent much since , all three consoles give me more then enough games. More games then that 1,000 a year computer ever could. Now I hear PC gaming has gotten much cheaper however I went to the store and tried buying a gaming laptop that could play Crysis2, StarCraft2 and ShogunTotalWar2 and I was told I could go with a 800$ one, however further questioning revealed that I would probably suffer lag and such and if I really wanted to experience the games at their best it would cost about 1,200$ for a good gaming laptop. Even that 1,200$ one isn't state of the art look at Alien Ware's gaming laptops you want one state of the art that will be playing games a year or two from now and your talking way over 1,000$.

Now I was also told a 500$ laptop would probably be able to play a lot of games very laggy and such but they would be playable. But honestly I could buy a new PS3 and a few games for cheaper. The PS3 would give me nearly state of the art graphics and a lot more games to choose from.

PC gaming is just plain expensive. For somebody who makes only 500$ a month after rent and about 300$ after bills. I really don't have 1,200$ to spend on a high end gaming laptop or the 500$ to spend on a low end laptop that probably won't be able to play the games I want as good as I want!


So first you started to say you spend $1k a year for a PC, and then you went to gaming laptops? I am sorry if I don't take you seriously.


Yah because back in the early millennium PC's were still pretty popular. I spent a fortune so I could play Phantom Menace and Age Of Empires and such. It was so expensive.

Now recently I was looking into a gaming laptop. Why? Because towers are inefficient and most retailers barely carry them anymore. Not to mention for business purposes other then gaming I need a laptop so a gaming laptop makes the most sense right now!

So yes a decade ago I was investing up to 1,000$ a year to keep my PC up to date. So I could play originally AOE:II and then Phantom Menace those were two of the big games I wanted to ensure I could play. I upgraded twice before dropping PC in favor of consoles, since then I still owned a PC but never bought one powerful enough to game, because getting one strong enough to play the latest games is just too expensive.

Now I'm looking into a laptop for business. I need it to be able to play some games however I don't have shit tons of money either. A 1,200$ machine is out of question. I'm planning to see what I can get black Friday, hopefully something that will run some of the newer games. But in that case it probably won't be able to run the latest games very well.

As I said PC gaming is just too expensive.



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

oniyide on 04 September 2011
rf40928 said:

i think this is a worn out topic.. but most Xbox non-fans like to bring up how XBlive cost 59.99 a year.. but from a relaibility stand point and features Live simply has more to offer.. they usually have it first.. they had netflix almost 2 yrs before PSN and the first year PSN had to use a netflix disc.. and although PSN has a sports equivalent , I like ESPN on XB Live..

If you can't afford 59.99 a year ( only 4.99 a month ) you honestly have no business buying expensive video  games multiple times a year for your console.. because if you already can't afford to EAT....an additional $4.99 a month might mean you cant afford to SLEEP ?!

I spend more money on a week of drinking 'mountain dew' soda then i do on a month of Xbox Live.. Im pretty sure the average person spends more money weekly on pretty trivial stuff as well.. my brother buys a new game for his PS3, Xbox 360, Wii almost monthly..  If you're doing well enough to buy alot of games yearly then the PSN free / Xb Live cost argument holds little value because GAMING is not a necessity, its entertainment and entertainment is never free.. If you buy a console to play  ONE game you love such as those who play COD ( therefore meaning you can waste money to buy a console to play a single game ) it means nothing.. If you own all three consoles like my brother.. it means nothing.. If you own a PS3 and want to say how MUCH of a rip off 4.99 a month is I guess thats fine..

its the principal, they are charging us to pay for a feature in a game we ALREADy bought. If they want to have extra features like ESPN for Gold, thats fine, but at the very least silver members should be able to play games online