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Wagram on 02 September 2011

No. The pretty graphics came at the cost of insane technical issues. Developers have become lazy and careless. Oh hey Bethesda.



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 02 September 2011
oniyide said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
oniyide said:
im satisfied, there are soem games out there that have much better AI, Uncharted 1 and Killzone2 (IMHO). THe only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was motion control, wiimote wasnt 1-1 and when it finally corrected itself it got little support. Sony threw some sixaxis crap in at the last moment, but at least the Move does what it said it would do, but that was a little too late. Kinect is fine but im not convinced that we will play anything good oustide of the minigames and dance games

i'm stealing your opinion and making it mine lol.

i'll agree with you on the AI. i don't think MS or Sony were thinking when they did motion controls but kinect and move are great answers to Wii but they were 5 yrs to late.

i don't think kinect will ever product anything hardcore enough for the hardcore to want to buy kinect for. there won't ever truely be a reason. i look at gunsmith for ghost recon as the best ability for the device but shooting without a gun in your hand really takes away from the game and they could have done gunsmith with PSeye using voice recognition.

for me the 2 devices are to similar to one another with kinect being slightly more advanced, but we don't have to get into all of that. i'll sum it up and say there both good for video voice chat and thats really about it.

Sony really screwd move up by have 3 controllers. if  they could have found away to put anolog sticks on move then we'd really see some hardcore work. Move does wht Sony said it would do, but it killed its self right along with no advertisement. 

is the Kinect even capable of that??

Ditto

not sure i agree with this, what 3 controllers are you referring too?? If your talking about DS3 and NavController I think SOny was trying to give people options and make it affordable which isnt bad, even though using DualShock 3 with the Move is crap( i caved and just bought the damn Navcontrol). I think your getting pretty hardcore experiences already. Heavy Rain, Resistance 3, Resident Evil 5, Killzone3, those are pretty "hardcore" experiences IMHO. Hell even that new Rune Factory game will be using it.  Yes ads could have been more, but considering that fact and it is the worst selling of the three Sony still manage to get more support than the other 2 peripherials. Dont care how you feel about Move, that is damn impressive. I can see how devs would have problems with Kinect, there is only so much you can do and it would take a while to make a "core" game for it and have it not suck. But Wiimote+?? THat has no excuse

2 move controllers and the Navcontroller. yea those are hardore experiences, but they need a game that show more of wht the controler can do, and i think there missing that.

i'm ok with move just needs more games.

agree with kinect and Wiim+. just don't see the hardcore in kinect and Wiim+ just disapointed. 



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oniyide on 02 September 2011
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
oniyide said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
oniyide said:
im satisfied, there are soem games out there that have much better AI, Uncharted 1 and Killzone2 (IMHO). THe only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was motion control, wiimote wasnt 1-1 and when it finally corrected itself it got little support. Sony threw some sixaxis crap in at the last moment, but at least the Move does what it said it would do, but that was a little too late. Kinect is fine but im not convinced that we will play anything good oustide of the minigames and dance games

i'm stealing your opinion and making it mine lol.

i'll agree with you on the AI. i don't think MS or Sony were thinking when they did motion controls but kinect and move are great answers to Wii but they were 5 yrs to late.

i don't think kinect will ever product anything hardcore enough for the hardcore to want to buy kinect for. there won't ever truely be a reason. i look at gunsmith for ghost recon as the best ability for the device but shooting without a gun in your hand really takes away from the game and they could have done gunsmith with PSeye using voice recognition.

for me the 2 devices are to similar to one another with kinect being slightly more advanced, but we don't have to get into all of that. i'll sum it up and say there both good for video voice chat and thats really about it.

Sony really screwd move up by have 3 controllers. if  they could have found away to put anolog sticks on move then we'd really see some hardcore work. Move does wht Sony said it would do, but it killed its self right along with no advertisement. 

is the Kinect even capable of that??

Ditto

not sure i agree with this, what 3 controllers are you referring too?? If your talking about DS3 and NavController I think SOny was trying to give people options and make it affordable which isnt bad, even though using DualShock 3 with the Move is crap( i caved and just bought the damn Navcontrol). I think your getting pretty hardcore experiences already. Heavy Rain, Resistance 3, Resident Evil 5, Killzone3, those are pretty "hardcore" experiences IMHO. Hell even that new Rune Factory game will be using it.  Yes ads could have been more, but considering that fact and it is the worst selling of the three Sony still manage to get more support than the other 2 peripherials. Dont care how you feel about Move, that is damn impressive. I can see how devs would have problems with Kinect, there is only so much you can do and it would take a while to make a "core" game for it and have it not suck. But Wiimote+?? THat has no excuse

2 move controllers and the Navcontroller. yea those are hardore experiences, but they need a game that show more of wht the controler can do, and i think there missing that.

i'm ok with move just needs more games.

agree with kinect and Wiim+. just don't see the hardcore in kinect and Wiim+ just disapointed. 


i think the fight and sports champions do a good job of showing what Move can do, but we do need more of those. You think Move nees MORE games??? interesting, i just must be an easier person to please. Id hate to think what you feel about Kinect and Wiimote plus library



MARCUSDJACKSON on 02 September 2011
oniyide said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
oniyide said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
oniyide said:
im satisfied, there are soem games out there that have much better AI, Uncharted 1 and Killzone2 (IMHO). THe only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was motion control, wiimote wasnt 1-1 and when it finally corrected itself it got little support. Sony threw some sixaxis crap in at the last moment, but at least the Move does what it said it would do, but that was a little too late. Kinect is fine but im not convinced that we will play anything good oustide of the minigames and dance games

i'm stealing your opinion and making it mine lol.

i'll agree with you on the AI. i don't think MS or Sony were thinking when they did motion controls but kinect and move are great answers to Wii but they were 5 yrs to late.

i don't think kinect will ever product anything hardcore enough for the hardcore to want to buy kinect for. there won't ever truely be a reason. i look at gunsmith for ghost recon as the best ability for the device but shooting without a gun in your hand really takes away from the game and they could have done gunsmith with PSeye using voice recognition.

for me the 2 devices are to similar to one another with kinect being slightly more advanced, but we don't have to get into all of that. i'll sum it up and say there both good for video voice chat and thats really about it.

Sony really screwd move up by have 3 controllers. if  they could have found away to put anolog sticks on move then we'd really see some hardcore work. Move does wht Sony said it would do, but it killed its self right along with no advertisement. 

is the Kinect even capable of that??

Ditto

not sure i agree with this, what 3 controllers are you referring too?? If your talking about DS3 and NavController I think SOny was trying to give people options and make it affordable which isnt bad, even though using DualShock 3 with the Move is crap( i caved and just bought the damn Navcontrol). I think your getting pretty hardcore experiences already. Heavy Rain, Resistance 3, Resident Evil 5, Killzone3, those are pretty "hardcore" experiences IMHO. Hell even that new Rune Factory game will be using it.  Yes ads could have been more, but considering that fact and it is the worst selling of the three Sony still manage to get more support than the other 2 peripherials. Dont care how you feel about Move, that is damn impressive. I can see how devs would have problems with Kinect, there is only so much you can do and it would take a while to make a "core" game for it and have it not suck. But Wiimote+?? THat has no excuse

2 move controllers and the Navcontroller. yea those are hardore experiences, but they need a game that show more of wht the controler can do, and i think there missing that.

i'm ok with move just needs more games.

agree with kinect and Wiim+. just don't see the hardcore in kinect and Wiim+ just disapointed. 


i think the fight and sports champions do a good job of showing what Move can do, but we do need more of those. You think Move nees MORE games??? interesting, i just must be an easier person to please. Id hate to think what you feel about Kinect and Wiimote plus library

yea we won't even talk about Wiim+ and Kinect libraries. 

i'm very hard to plz but it looks like Sony does it to often for my taste. Even vita has past my expectations of 20 innovative new IP. yes Vita needed all new IP not things from PSP or reimagine PS3 titles like (love)Uncharted.

from wht i've seen so far Vita is worth the buy. still waiting on 3DS. i've seen nothing that innovates on 3DS yet. it needs more then 3D to be innovative. 3D is old news.

i can't raise expectations higher then wht i have them so next gen consoles need to follow the image of Vita and show me innovation in games and hardware as does PC dev's.



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Mordred11 on 02 September 2011
Wagram said:
No. The pretty graphics came at the cost of insane technical issues. Developers have become lazy and careless. Oh hey Bethesda.

That's a good point.But SE are even lazier than Bethesda



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Wagram on 02 September 2011
Mordred11 said:
Wagram said:
No. The pretty graphics came at the cost of insane technical issues. Developers have become lazy and careless. Oh hey Bethesda.

That's a good point.But SE are even lazier than Bethesda

Is that an attack on me because of my Avatar? Lol. Man you people need to try harder. and in some cases I would agree.



Mordred11 on 02 September 2011
Wagram said:

Is that an attack on me because of my Avatar? Lol. Man you people need to try harder. and in some cases I would agree.

I was expecting you to say this.That wasn't the case.



zarx on 03 September 2011
Wagram said:
No. The pretty graphics came at the cost of insane technical issues. Developers have become lazy and careless. Oh hey Bethesda.


Bad example Bethesda games have been far less buggy than they ever have been before. Daggerfall shipped with a bug that made the game uncompletable and that was in the time before patches were easally available, it also had hundreds of other bugs, Morrowind was a buggy mess at first as well and even with the final PC patch modders still had to make a fan patch with over 70 bug fixes and the game is still not bug free. Open world games always have been and always will be the buggiest games arround especially when you have as large worlds and complex interactions and as many veriables in terms of how you play and build you character as Bethesda games do...



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Wagram on 03 September 2011
zarx said:
Wagram said:
No. The pretty graphics came at the cost of insane technical issues. Developers have become lazy and careless. Oh hey Bethesda.


Bad example Bethesda games have been far less buggy than they ever have been before. Daggerfall shipped with a bug that made the game uncompletable and that was in the time before patches were easally available, it also had hundreds of other bugs, Morrowind was a buggy mess at first as well and even with the final PC patch modders still had to make a fan patch with over 70 bug fixes and the game is still not bug free. Open world games always have been and always will be the buggiest games arround especially when you have as large worlds and complex interactions and as many veriables in terms of how you play and build you character as Bethesda games do...


That's pretty bad considering how buggy their games are this generation. Fallout games especially.



RLAAMJR. on 04 September 2011

I agree with you for the most part of your long post. : )



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