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spurgeonryan said:
WE don't even understand totally our own brains and how to get max use out of it. So how can they have a computer mimic our brains? Anyone know how powerful that Jeopardy computer was or is?

good point



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MARCUSDJACKSON said:
snakenobi said:
Dr.Grass said:
vlad321 said:
snakenobi said:
vlad321 said:
snakenobi said:


can't happen

 

Computers can't think

consciiousness and intelligence are different

What kind of fantasy life do you live in?


the real world knowing how it works

not being naive and thinking everything is possible

Link to anything?

Because I have a bunch of sources I can pull to show you that a human brain is just a very good web of electrical signals.

And has this conjecture any proof backing it up? Anything at all? 

Show me proof.

Copy and paste us some proof then

leave it,he doesn't understand how computers work

 

he thinks if computers get power they automatically can think themselves

ok i'm not much of a computer/tech mind, but wht about programing thought, actions. intrical circuits that can build on several diferent links that can produce reaction and things of that sort.

yeah but that wills till be a controlled reaction that is given yo them by our programming

they can't form their own thinking


if something can mimic the brain meaning in some way act like one.

yeah but our brain is just a quantum computer,we can control it through our own conciousness hwo will the computers be able to control theirs?

i understand the plights of not conseving emotions or feelings because the computer can't fill but logicaly it could think? think about wht though? thats the block in our minds thinking about something we've never thought about before learning or being programed from the computers perspective.

the thing is we keep losing memory so our thoughts are formed by are latest knowledge which is unlike computers as they would think time didn't pass as memory would be there

we can create a computer like the onesthat you get on chat boxes and like milo where ther conversation is  what computer thinks we will be able to understand but not of its own

have you ever goen on a site where when leave it told you,it would give you a discount and then it started shatting with you and you though you were chatting with a real person about a dicsount?

at this point being programed to speak is posible, and agreed emotions and thinking isn't posible because of wht it would take to get that type of reaction (for those reading this is notstart trek yet)from something that can't feel, react and think without being programed.

thinking needs to be programed right but not reaction. wel not always. sensors could take the place of reactions without the computer knowing why which is i'msure from your aguments is the problem.

yup





Dr.Grass said:
Most physicists don't take String Theory/M Theory seriously. Most Theoretical Physicists don't take any of this 'What the Bleep do we know' stuff seriously.

These things are very new-age and not scientific.

Science hasn't spoken a single word about consciousness, so there you are right.


exactly,science was known to be the thing that will break beliefs

and most phycisist think of the universe universe as a material space but the problem is that they can't answer the next question and say it doesn't need to be answered

 

now they are realising it is not.



spurgeonryan said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
spurgeonryan said:
WE don't even understand totally our own brains and how to get max use out of it. So how can they have a computer mimic our brains? Anyone know how powerful that Jeopardy computer was or is?

good point


Ahhh.... you quoted me so I thought there was some sort of argument with what I had to say or discussion or something. Lol your good MARCUSD...maybe too good?

Of course I think the Jeopardy computer was just made to know everything...?

how?

reminds me of those spiders (plz tell m you know wht i'm talking about)they sent out over the internet inn 2002 after 9/11.

they search for random info of some sort. they were programed to do so but had know mind so imop they had know idea wht to look for so they brought back random words and info adding to things already put into the web about 2012/doomsday.

last time i checked Sony's cell was the most power processor on the market, rumor has it that Sony and IBM are working on a 16 or 32 core cell processor so were does this processor fit in the equation?

mimic not meaning as complex as the brain is the point most are missing in this thread.



It's ridiculous to think that we will never be able to do thing no matter time.

Don't subestimate the human potential.



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snakenobi said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
snakenobi said:
Dr.Grass said:
vlad321 said:
snakenobi said:
vlad321 said:
snakenobi said:


can't happen

 

Computers can't think

consciiousness and intelligence are different

What kind of fantasy life do you live in?


the real world knowing how it works

not being naive and thinking everything is possible

Link to anything?

Because I have a bunch of sources I can pull to show you that a human brain is just a very good web of electrical signals.

And has this conjecture any proof backing it up? Anything at all? 

Show me proof.

Copy and paste us some proof then

leave it,he doesn't understand how computers work

 

he thinks if computers get power they automatically can think themselves

ok i'm not much of a computer/tech mind, but wht about programing thought, actions. intrical circuits that can build on several diferent links that can produce reaction and things of that sort.

yeah but that wills till be a controlled reaction that is given yo them by our programming

they can't form their own thinking exactly.


if something can mimic the brain meaning in some way act like one.

yeah but our brain is just a quantum computer,we can control it through our own conciousness hwo will the computers be able to control theirs? now way. i don't even think a program can be made to make that possible.

i understand the plights of not conseving emotions or feelings because the computer can't fill but logicaly it could think? think about wht though? thats the block in our minds thinking about something we've never thought about before learning or being programed from the computers perspective.

the thing is we keep losing memory so our thoughts are formed by are latest knowledge which is unlike computers as they would think time didn't pass as memory would be there. can't argue there. 

we can create a computer like the onesthat you get on chat boxes and like milo where ther conversation is  what computer thinks we will be able to understand but not of its own: hins no understanding beyond the info given

have you ever goen on a site where when leave it told you,it would give you a discount and then it started shatting with you and you though you were chatting with a real person about a dicsount? no thats crazy. well i did do it to make people laugh once. automated call center would be a better example.

at this point being programed to speak is posible, and agreed emotions and thinking isn't posible because of wht it would take to get that type of reaction (for those reading this is notstart trek yet)from something that can't feel, react and think without being programed.

thinking needs to be programed right but not reaction. wel not always. sensors could take the place of reactions without the computer knowing why which is i'msure from your aguments is the problem.

yup



hey. i guse i new more then i thought



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Onibaka said:
It's ridiculous to think that we will never be able to do thing no matter time.

Don't subestimate the human potential.

agreed. with our minds there a limit but we don't know wht that limit is, but when we get there we'll search for more learn more being past that limit. we're always braking through our limitations and as you've said its just a matter of time.

if you've seen my posting history you'll know i can't and won't dismiss anything unless theres facts to back it up which could likely be found as an opinion and made baseless and arguable until commeon ground is found.



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
snakenobi said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
snakenobi said:
Dr.Grass said:
vlad321 said:
snakenobi said:
vlad321 said:
snakenobi said:


can't happen

 

Computers can't think

consciiousness and intelligence are different

What kind of fantasy life do you live in?


the real world knowing how it works

not being naive and thinking everything is possible

Link to anything?

Because I have a bunch of sources I can pull to show you that a human brain is just a very good web of electrical signals.

And has this conjecture any proof backing it up? Anything at all? 

Show me proof.

Copy and paste us some proof then

leave it,he doesn't understand how computers work

 

he thinks if computers get power they automatically can think themselves

ok i'm not much of a computer/tech mind, but wht about programing thought, actions. intrical circuits that can build on several diferent links that can produce reaction and things of that sort.

yeah but that wills till be a controlled reaction that is given yo them by our programming

they can't form their own thinking exactly.


if something can mimic the brain meaning in some way act like one.

yeah but our brain is just a quantum computer,we can control it through our own conciousness hwo will the computers be able to control theirs? now way. i don't even think a program can be made to make that possible.

i understand the plights of not conseving emotions or feelings because the computer can't fill but logicaly it could think? think about wht though? thats the block in our minds thinking about something we've never thought about before learning or being programed from the computers perspective.

the thing is we keep losing memory so our thoughts are formed by are latest knowledge which is unlike computers as they would think time didn't pass as memory would be there. can't argue there. 

we can create a computer like the onesthat you get on chat boxes and like milo where ther conversation is  what computer thinks we will be able to understand but not of its own: hins no understanding beyond the info given

have you ever goen on a site where when leave it told you,it would give you a discount and then it started shatting with you and you though you were chatting with a real person about a dicsount? no thats crazy. well i did do it to make people laugh once. automated call center would be a better example.

at this point being programed to speak is posible, and agreed emotions and thinking isn't posible because of wht it would take to get that type of reaction (for those reading this is notstart trek yet)from something that can't feel, react and think without being programed.

thinking needs to be programed right but not reaction. wel not always. sensors could take the place of reactions without the computer knowing why which is i'msure from your aguments is the problem.

yup



hey. i guse i new more then i thought

i don't know what you think from the last argument

sensors can take place of reactions but the way one perceives the reactive will still have to be programmed so we would control it



trasharmdsister12 said:
Gears of War 3 to have human level AI confirmed!

lol. yea if only this CPU was n the 360 tha'd be true