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Based of well-fare of their own people,world change caused and influence on the world

Alexander the Great 25 22.32%
 
Julias Caesar 19 16.96%
 
Adolf Hitler 21 18.75%
 
Genghis Khan 19 16.96%
 
Napoleon 5 4.46%
 
Queen Victoria 7 6.25%
 
Charlemagne 7 6.25%
 
Darius the Great 7 6.25%
 
Total:110
snakenobi on 08 August 2011
superchunk said:
In your list, I'd go with Ghengis Kahn as you seem to be basing it on expansion and military prowess.

However, I'd actually vote for the first Caliph, Abu Bakr, of the Muslim/Arab empire; since he kicked off how Arabs conquered and managed their empire.

Additionally, he reunited a group that was quickly falling into disarray after the death of the Prophet. Arabia was quickly falling back into conditions prior to the Prophet's control over the entire Arab region, including civil wars.

The Arab Empire's size and scope at its peak was only beat by Ghengis Kahn, however, one principle missed out of all of these is that all of the areas conquered by Arabs became heavily influenced by Arabs to this modern day. (even through other later conquers like Europeans)

From language to religion. Most are purely Islamic states and even those that purged themselves of Islam still have Arab customs and language as a significant part of their culture.

Example is that of Spain and Spanish culture. The roots of many words, titles, and cultural significance all stem from Arabs and Arabic. But, I guess that would happen if your entire nation was ruled by another for over 800years.

Heck, it even converted the mongol empire after they captured everything east of Iraq. This is why so many 'stan' nations are Muslim, as they were all part of this empire before and after the Mongol empire's acceptance of Islam.


isn't that the same with buddhism,christianity

arabicsislam left its legacy but in what condition?



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non-gravity on 08 August 2011

I say whoever conquered the most of the early centres of civilization: Sumer (Mesopotamia), Peru, Egypt, the Indus, China and Mexico.

Alexander held 3
Britain held 3

George Bush held all :p



BoneArk on 08 August 2011

Julius Caesar b/c he has the coolest name of them all.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

Mr Khan on 08 August 2011

You get two guesses, based on my name (which, yes, is based on that Khan)



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superchunk on 08 August 2011
snakenobi said:
superchunk said:
In your list, I'd go with Ghengis Kahn as you seem to be basing it on expansion and military prowess.

However, I'd actually vote for the first Caliph, Abu Bakr, of the Muslim/Arab empire; since he kicked off how Arabs conquered and managed their empire.

Additionally, he reunited a group that was quickly falling into disarray after the death of the Prophet. Arabia was quickly falling back into conditions prior to the Prophet's control over the entire Arab region, including civil wars.

The Arab Empire's size and scope at its peak was only beat by Ghengis Kahn, however, one principle missed out of all of these is that all of the areas conquered by Arabs became heavily influenced by Arabs to this modern day. (even through other later conquers like Europeans)

From language to religion. Most are purely Islamic states and even those that purged themselves of Islam still have Arab customs and language as a significant part of their culture.

Example is that of Spain and Spanish culture. The roots of many words, titles, and cultural significance all stem from Arabs and Arabic. But, I guess that would happen if your entire nation was ruled by another for over 800years.

Heck, it even converted the mongol empire after they captured everything east of Iraq. This is why so many 'stan' nations are Muslim, as they were all part of this empire before and after the Mongol empire's acceptance of Islam.


isn't that the same with buddhism,christianity

arabicsislam left its legacy but in what condition?

3 of the 4 areas of Khan's empire accepted Islam. Most of all the mongol rulers, including Khan himself, has Muslims in the most critical and influential posts. Islam had the biggest impact on that empire easily.

buddhism is no where near the other two in growth size etc

Christianity is definitely there as a religion greatly helped by various empires.



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snakenobi on 08 August 2011
superchunk said:
snakenobi said:
superchunk said:
In your list, I'd go with Ghengis Kahn as you seem to be basing it on expansion and military prowess.

However, I'd actually vote for the first Caliph, Abu Bakr, of the Muslim/Arab empire; since he kicked off how Arabs conquered and managed their empire.

Additionally, he reunited a group that was quickly falling into disarray after the death of the Prophet. Arabia was quickly falling back into conditions prior to the Prophet's control over the entire Arab region, including civil wars.

The Arab Empire's size and scope at its peak was only beat by Ghengis Kahn, however, one principle missed out of all of these is that all of the areas conquered by Arabs became heavily influenced by Arabs to this modern day. (even through other later conquers like Europeans)

From language to religion. Most are purely Islamic states and even those that purged themselves of Islam still have Arab customs and language as a significant part of their culture.

Example is that of Spain and Spanish culture. The roots of many words, titles, and cultural significance all stem from Arabs and Arabic. But, I guess that would happen if your entire nation was ruled by another for over 800years.

Heck, it even converted the mongol empire after they captured everything east of Iraq. This is why so many 'stan' nations are Muslim, as they were all part of this empire before and after the Mongol empire's acceptance of Islam.


isn't that the same with buddhism,christianity

arabicsislam left its legacy but in what condition?

3 of the 4 areas of Khan's empire accepted Islam. Most of all the mongol rulers, including Khan himself, has Muslims in the most critical and influential posts. Islam had the biggest impact on that empire easily.

buddhism is no where near the other two in growth size etc

Christianity is definitely there as a religion greatly helped by various empires.

christianity flourished as the western soceity were curious kind of fellows

buddhism mainly in eastern soceity doesn't go beyond a certain limits,they like to be content with what they have

southern which is islam,i would envies the other two,they are a mix of both have strict laws and also want others to come under their belief

 

every cultures has its inspiration but i wouldn't give any extra importance to islam



Kantor on 08 August 2011

Definitely Genghis Khan. His armies controlled pretty much the whole of Asia, and he supposedly fathered thousands of children. Alexander would be a reasonably-distant second.



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Umos-Cmos on 08 August 2011

None of the above. You didn't list George Washington. First president of what would become the greatest empire the world has ever known, the United States of America. He's got my vote.



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Salnax on 08 August 2011

Alexander the Great - Great empires don't count when they disappear after a generation.
Julias Caesar - A failed dictator
Adolf Hitler - Destroyed his on country, made Communists a major force, gave Jews Israel, and otherwise failed.
Genghis Khan - Purely military, showing little competence in any other areas
Napoleon - Controlled the greatest power in the world and still failed
Queen Victoria - Chilled
Charlemagne - See Alexander
Darius the Great - Competent, ensured that Persia would be greatest empire in history of world up to that point



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okr on 08 August 2011

I think one of the poll choices and OP descriptions are misleading.

If you mean Augustus as mentioned in the OP you can't call him Julius Caesar in the poll. When you say Julius Caesar today we always think of the first, the "actual" Gaius Julius Caesar, Augustus' grand-uncle who was murdered in 44 BC.


OT:
Worldwide - Genghis Khan
Europe - Karl der Große (Charlemagne)