By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Politics - Rioting in London ¬_¬

NJ5 said:
http://catchalooter.tumblr.com/


I hope they get a lot of pics up and that the English police go through and find a majority of these people. Especially those that harmed others. The best way to prevent this from happening again is to make sure there are reprecussions for those that do it.



Around the Network

The cops are being too civil with the rioters. The cops and riot squads in the US would give them the right to protest but if any firing took place the riot squads would be wall to wall surrounding them with fire.



Ajescent said:
Kantor said:
Lostplanet22 said:
A 26-year-old man shot in a car during riots in Croydon has died in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14462693

I'm sure that was by a poor youngster, bless his soul, who is only poor because the Conservatives are cutting government spending and because Thatcher took free milk away from schoolchildren 30 years ago. I think we should give him more money and maybe a free gun so he can shoot people all he wants.

The above is almost literally what our bullshit left-wing media is saying. The Guardian at this point is honestly making the Sun look good.

The worst part is, there are so many people currently on facebook who agrees with them. ¬_¬

I'm seeing the exact opposite. Most people are either complaining about the crime, insulting the criminals or insulting David Cameron for being a wimp.



(Former) Lead Moderator and (Eternal) VGC Detective

Baddman said:

jesus i do not agree with them burning and looting stuff but you guys can be idiotic enough to believe that bullshit story the media is putting out . here is the story i got from this guy on this other forum i frquent who lives in the area just gonne cut and paste what he said

__________________________________________________________
"This what started it........... the killing of Mark Duggan and lack of information about what happened while claiming there was a gun fight that alot people that know him dont believe, that he would do. (have a shootout with armed police)





I live in Tottenham and knew the guy Mark that got shot. I wasnt close with him but used to live on broadwater farm where he lived and he hung out, after I moved out I would see him around now and then. He was an okay guy if you knew him, he wasnt no hot head or the sort of person to go around attacking people etc. The newspapers be claiming he a gangster but from what I heard he's only been to prison once, and was on remand at that time. Yeah he did his lil shotting but nothing to be excuted over.

His cousin got stabbed to death in a nightclub months earlier, thats why they say he may have had the gun. The gun was alledged to have been found in a sock. The gun might even have been in the taxi he was in.

This what it seems happened as I've heard info from people I know who know people he knows, plus a witness that was there that has told some people I know what he saw, I've read bare reports (Mis representing the truth), heard what his fam has said etc.

Mark was travelling in a taxi, 15 minutes before he was killed he texted his gf to say that the feds were following him.

Six un-marked police cars cornered the taxi. They put the driver face down, a witness said that both people were face down on the ground when he was shot (the taxi driver & Mark). Another witness claimed that another police officers gun went off, hitting the officer in the chest / police radio. The officer that got hit then shot Mark dead as he thought that the shot must have came from him.

If this is true, than I think the media needs to apologise for the false information about there being a gun fight, Mark shooting at them, etc. These reports were caused in part to the parts of information that the police decided to release. Why did the police feel it was necessary to give out information about there being a non issue firearm found at the scene but not if it was fired etc, if the gun was not fired or brang out during his shooting. They have tried to imply that he shot an officer and that he was shot in retailation.

----------

Somebody has told me that the one of the bullets fired by the police, went through mark or receade(spelling?)..aka bounced and hit the other cops radio. No shots fired from Mark, his firearm may have been in the vehicle, the guy was unarmed, basically excuted.

Police tried to protray it as something different, they didnt even inform his family. His family found out from the news. They had to call the polive a few days later to arrange to view his body to id him, the fam went to the police station because they wanted answers, they waited for hours to talk to the police but they just ignored them. Then things started to switch when police got heavy handed with a young girl who was with the protest for answers.

I got there when the riots kicked off, as I got a call that the station was being attacked, I wanted to see, it would have been better for the rioters to go after the police station but the feds were proper protecting the station and leaving the people to loot shops right in front of them and leaving them to burn sh*t, until sh*t got out of control and they got more feds for every lil bit they moved forward"
______________________________________________________

also another thing   is this

vivatifosi
Another thing that won't win support for the police is that the Guardian is reportedly stating that the bullet in the policeman's radio was police issue and therefore not the result of a gun battle.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/au...k-london-burns

Which not only raises questions about the role of the police, it also brings into question how the Guardian is getting all of its scoops lately.

im sure most of what i just said will be ignored of course tho

No one is saying the events aren't sketchy for the original death, but it no longer has anything to do with that incident. Do you really think all these events are to do with one guy? None of the people rioting care about what happened, they're just happy they have an excuse to steal and damage people's property.



Kantor said:
Lostplanet22 said:
A 26-year-old man shot in a car during riots in Croydon has died in hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14462693

I'm sure that was by a poor youngster, bless his soul, who is only poor because the Conservatives are cutting government spending and because Thatcher took free milk away from schoolchildren 30 years ago. I think we should give him more money and maybe a free gun so he can shoot people all he wants.

The above is almost literally what our bullshit left-wing media is saying. The Guardian at this point is honestly making the Sun look good.

Clearly the solution is to give them more welfare so that they can but HDTVs instead of being oppressed into stealing them.



ǝןdɯıs ʇı dǝǝʞ oʇ ǝʞıן ı ʍouʞ noʎ 

Ask me about being an elitist jerk

Time for hype

Around the Network

Why are people rioting?



yo_john117 said:

Why are people rioting?

Because they are fucktards.



Hmm, pie.

The Fury said:
yo_john117 said:

Why are people rioting?

Because they are fucktards.

I guess I should have figured that.



It is awkward to see places where you have lived in this state,



 

Baddman said:

jesus i do not agree with them burning and looting stuff but you guys can be idiotic enough to believe that bullshit story the media is putting out . here is the story i got from this guy on this other forum i frquent who lives in the area just gonne cut and paste what he said

__________________________________________________________
"This what started it........... the killing of Mark Duggan and lack of information about what happened while claiming there was a gun fight that alot people that know him dont believe, that he would do. (have a shootout with armed police)





I live in Tottenham and knew the guy Mark that got shot. I wasnt close with him but used to live on broadwater farm where he lived and he hung out, after I moved out I would see him around now and then. He was an okay guy if you knew him, he wasnt no hot head or the sort of person to go around attacking people etc. The newspapers be claiming he a gangster but from what I heard he's only been to prison once, and was on remand at that time. Yeah he did his lil shotting but nothing to be excuted over.

His cousin got stabbed to death in a nightclub months earlier, thats why they say he may have had the gun. The gun was alledged to have been found in a sock. The gun might even have been in the taxi he was in.

This what it seems happened as I've heard info from people I know who know people he knows, plus a witness that was there that has told some people I know what he saw, I've read bare reports (Mis representing the truth), heard what his fam has said etc.

Mark was travelling in a taxi, 15 minutes before he was killed he texted his gf to say that the feds were following him.

Six un-marked police cars cornered the taxi. They put the driver face down, a witness said that both people were face down on the ground when he was shot (the taxi driver & Mark). Another witness claimed that another police officers gun went off, hitting the officer in the chest / police radio. The officer that got hit then shot Mark dead as he thought that the shot must have came from him.

If this is true, than I think the media needs to apologise for the false information about there being a gun fight, Mark shooting at them, etc. These reports were caused in part to the parts of information that the police decided to release. Why did the police feel it was necessary to give out information about there being a non issue firearm found at the scene but not if it was fired etc, if the gun was not fired or brang out during his shooting. They have tried to imply that he shot an officer and that he was shot in retailation.

----------

Somebody has told me that the one of the bullets fired by the police, went through mark or receade(spelling?)..aka bounced and hit the other cops radio. No shots fired from Mark, his firearm may have been in the vehicle, the guy was unarmed, basically excuted.

Police tried to protray it as something different, they didnt even inform his family. His family found out from the news. They had to call the polive a few days later to arrange to view his body to id him, the fam went to the police station because they wanted answers, they waited for hours to talk to the police but they just ignored them. Then things started to switch when police got heavy handed with a young girl who was with the protest for answers.

I got there when the riots kicked off, as I got a call that the station was being attacked, I wanted to see, it would have been better for the rioters to go after the police station but the feds were proper protecting the station and leaving the people to loot shops right in front of them and leaving them to burn sh*t, until sh*t got out of control and they got more feds for every lil bit they moved forward"
______________________________________________________

also another thing   is this

vivatifosi
Another thing that won't win support for the police is that the Guardian is reportedly stating that the bullet in the policeman's radio was police issue and therefore not the result of a gun battle.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/au...k-london-burns

Which not only raises questions about the role of the police, it also brings into question how the Guardian is getting all of its scoops lately.

im sure most of what i just said will be ignored of course tho


yeah the independent police complaints commision has said ballistic tests showed "no evidence that the handgun found at the scene was fired".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14459516

edit: and yeah I get it this is kind of  going of topic sorry.



correct me if I am wrong
stop me if I am bias
I love a good civilised debate (but only if we can learn something).