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NinjaguyDan on 05 August 2011
wfz said:
If I recall correctly, there have been extremely simple and wonderful cures for cancer that had been found a few years ago, but the medical field completely disregards them because they're unable to make any money off of those methods.

I could be totally off here, but I remember reading something about it.

Here's what I got from a quick google search: http://nutritiondietnews.com/canadian-researchers-obtain-a-simple-cure-for-cancer-but-major-pharmaceutical-corporations-arent-interested/853757/


If you have two hours to spare, this documentary should be of interest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0ibsoqjPac

Everyone should watch it.



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Galaki on 05 August 2011

New cancer will be around when/if we beat old cancer. There's no worry for lack of cancers to kill us.



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NinjaguyDan on 05 August 2011
Galaki said:
New cancer will be around when/if we beat old cancer. There's no worry for lack of cancers to kill us.


The Industrial Disease.



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Stefan.De.Machtige on 06 August 2011
NinjaguyDan said:
Galaki said:
New cancer will be around when/if we beat old cancer. There's no worry for lack of cancers to kill us.


The Industrial Disease.

No, the disease which kills you because all the rest can't anymore. In a really, really sick way the increase of cancer is a sign of progress.



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NJ5 on 06 August 2011

So what other anti-progress things which kill people and prevent overpopulation should we support?

In practice no one will stop progress in this area so it's an unrealistic academic exercise...



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Troll_Whisperer on 06 August 2011
wfz said:
If I recall correctly, there have been extremely simple and wonderful cures for cancer that had been found a few years ago, but the medical field completely disregards them because they're unable to make any money off of those methods.

I could be totally off here, but I remember reading something about it.

Here's what I got from a quick google search: http://nutritiondietnews.com/canadian-researchers-obtain-a-simple-cure-for-cancer-but-major-pharmaceutical-corporations-arent-interested/853757/

I don't know. In countries with universal healthcare we would be using something like this if it were true.



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Zkuq on 06 August 2011
KBG29 said:
I think living forever sounds very selfish, and very sad. It is better to just accept that people will die, and just be happy we ever had a life in the first place.

The thing is, beating cancer is not about living forever. It's about living a life that's closer to average in duration.



KBG29 on 06 August 2011
Zkuq said:
KBG29 said:
I think living forever sounds very selfish, and very sad. It is better to just accept that people will die, and just be happy we ever had a life in the first place.

The thing is, beating cancer is not about living forever. It's about living a life that's closer to average in duration.

The average  age at death of cancer patientce is already around 70 years old.



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NJ5 on 06 August 2011
Zkuq said:
KBG29 said:
I think living forever sounds very selfish, and very sad. It is better to just accept that people will die, and just be happy we ever had a life in the first place.

The thing is, beating cancer is not about living forever. It's about living a life that's closer to average in duration.


It's one of the seven things in SENS's list of classes of biological aging damage:

  • Cell loss, tissue atrophy
  • Nuclear [epi]mutations (only cancer matters)
  • Mutant mitochondria
  • Death-resistant cells
  • Tissue stiffening
  • Extracellular aggregates
  • Intracellular aggregates


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sethnintendo on 06 August 2011
NinjaguyDan said:
sethnintendo said:

Funny thing is that they are trying to beat cancer the wrong way. They are trying to make healthy living into a prescription pill that will probably have many side effects (including probably cancer). Prescription medication is making the human population weaker and more susceptible to disease (or at least making viruses drug resistant). A world without cancer would be a world without humans. Humans are the real cancer on the planet.

Also, the ways they fight cancer in USA are downright pathetic.  Anyone who undergoes chemotherapy might as well sign their death certificate.  Chemotherapy has to be one of the worst "inventions" for mankind.  Instead of trying to correct the lifestyle changes that brought the person to cancer they go ahead and destroy all cells (healthy and cancerous) in your body.  You know what? Most of the times it will probably come back because they really didn't even get rid of the cancer.  Instead of pumping your body full of micro-nutrients from veggies and fruit they point a death ray at you and expect you to live.  Medical industry is a pure joke.

WRONG!

I was diagnosed with leukemia in an advanced stage on June 16th, 1988 and given the standard course of chemo at the time, nasty shit, followed by a bone marrow transplant and I'm still here to talk about it.

As long as there is life, there is hope.

I know plenty of people survive chemo.  However, there are way better options than doing chemo.  Chemo kills more healthy cells than cancerous cells.  Does chemo help save lives?  I am sure it does and if the patient survives they will say chemo helped when it could have been other factors.  Although, if the patient dies after receiving chemo the doctor blames the cancer not the chemo (when the chemo probably sped up the patient's death).  You can't have it one way and not the other.