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Joelcool7 said:

That would apply to almost all girls in the developing world. In Thailand where I just was the girls were pretty much forced into prostitution and then they had kids who the grandparents would try to raise. Does this mean that every child born into a developing country and a mother who is not adequatly able to take care of it should be murdered? Murder all the poor people's children and only allow rich people to have kids because they can afford to take care of them?

In the end where would we be in this world if everyone who couldn't afford or wasn't ready to have kids aborted. Chances are you and I wouldn't exist because somewhere down the line their was a women who was not ready or equiped to have us (Our grandparents etc...etc..)

Developing countries would do good to have better sex ed, and better access to contraceptives.



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sapphi_snake said:
Joelcool7 said:

That would apply to almost all girls in the developing world. In Thailand where I just was the girls were pretty much forced into prostitution and then they had kids who the grandparents would try to raise. Does this mean that every child born into a developing country and a mother who is not adequatly able to take care of it should be murdered? Murder all the poor people's children and only allow rich people to have kids because they can afford to take care of them?

In the end where would we be in this world if everyone who couldn't afford or wasn't ready to have kids aborted. Chances are you and I wouldn't exist because somewhere down the line their was a women who was not ready or equiped to have us (Our grandparents etc...etc..)

Developing countries would do good to have better sex ed, and better access to contraceptives.


Wouldn't deny that fully agree I thought you were refering to abortion.



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sapphi_snake said:
Joelcool7 said:

That would apply to almost all girls in the developing world. In Thailand where I just was the girls were pretty much forced into prostitution and then they had kids who the grandparents would try to raise. Does this mean that every child born into a developing country and a mother who is not adequatly able to take care of it should be murdered? Murder all the poor people's children and only allow rich people to have kids because they can afford to take care of them?

In the end where would we be in this world if everyone who couldn't afford or wasn't ready to have kids aborted. Chances are you and I wouldn't exist because somewhere down the line their was a women who was not ready or equiped to have us (Our grandparents etc...etc..)

Developing countries would do good to have better sex ed, and better access to contraceptives.

We have ok sex ed, and contraceptives are free at health centers.



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Johann said:
sapphi_snake said:
Joelcool7 said:

That would apply to almost all girls in the developing world. In Thailand where I just was the girls were pretty much forced into prostitution and then they had kids who the grandparents would try to raise. Does this mean that every child born into a developing country and a mother who is not adequatly able to take care of it should be murdered? Murder all the poor people's children and only allow rich people to have kids because they can afford to take care of them?

In the end where would we be in this world if everyone who couldn't afford or wasn't ready to have kids aborted. Chances are you and I wouldn't exist because somewhere down the line their was a women who was not ready or equiped to have us (Our grandparents etc...etc..)

Developing countries would do good to have better sex ed, and better access to contraceptives.

We have ok sex ed, and contraceptives are free at health centers.

Not good enough appearently...



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Joelcool7 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Joelcool7 said:

That would apply to almost all girls in the developing world. In Thailand where I just was the girls were pretty much forced into prostitution and then they had kids who the grandparents would try to raise. Does this mean that every child born into a developing country and a mother who is not adequatly able to take care of it should be murdered? Murder all the poor people's children and only allow rich people to have kids because they can afford to take care of them?

In the end where would we be in this world if everyone who couldn't afford or wasn't ready to have kids aborted. Chances are you and I wouldn't exist because somewhere down the line their was a women who was not ready or equiped to have us (Our grandparents etc...etc..)

Developing countries would do good to have better sex ed, and better access to contraceptives.


Wouldn't deny that fully agree I thought you were refering to abortion.

Abortion should be a last resort though.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

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sapphi_snake said:
Johann said:
sapphi_snake said:
Joelcool7 said:

That would apply to almost all girls in the developing world. In Thailand where I just was the girls were pretty much forced into prostitution and then they had kids who the grandparents would try to raise. Does this mean that every child born into a developing country and a mother who is not adequatly able to take care of it should be murdered? Murder all the poor people's children and only allow rich people to have kids because they can afford to take care of them?

In the end where would we be in this world if everyone who couldn't afford or wasn't ready to have kids aborted. Chances are you and I wouldn't exist because somewhere down the line their was a women who was not ready or equiped to have us (Our grandparents etc...etc..)

Developing countries would do good to have better sex ed, and better access to contraceptives.

We have ok sex ed, and contraceptives are free at health centers.

Not good enough appearently...

I think it has more to do with the families and the conditions in wich the poorer people are brought up than public sex ed and contraceptive access both of which are not nearly as bad as the levels of early pregnancy would make you believe.

Also, 14 is kind of the late end of the problem, there are girls having babies as soon as humanly possible.

Anyway, on-topic, poor girl, this must be hard. It is great dark humor tho.



Farmageddon said:
sapphi_snake said:
Johann said:
sapphi_snake said:
Joelcool7 said:

That would apply to almost all girls in the developing world. In Thailand where I just was the girls were pretty much forced into prostitution and then they had kids who the grandparents would try to raise. Does this mean that every child born into a developing country and a mother who is not adequatly able to take care of it should be murdered? Murder all the poor people's children and only allow rich people to have kids because they can afford to take care of them?

In the end where would we be in this world if everyone who couldn't afford or wasn't ready to have kids aborted. Chances are you and I wouldn't exist because somewhere down the line their was a women who was not ready or equiped to have us (Our grandparents etc...etc..)

Developing countries would do good to have better sex ed, and better access to contraceptives.

We have ok sex ed, and contraceptives are free at health centers.

Not good enough appearently...

I think it has more to do with the families and the conditions in wich the poorer people are brought up than public sex ed and contraceptive access both of which are not nearly as bad as the levels of early pregnancy would make you believe.

Also, 14 is kind of the late end of the problem, there are girls having babies as soon as humanly possible.

Anyway, on-topic, poor girl, this must be hard. It is great dark humor tho.

O_O

Oh my... How young to girls start popping out babies over there? And BTW, isn't the world's youngest mother also from Brazil?

And do poor people have access to sex ed and contraceptives?

(P.S.: There's nothing funny about this, even in terms of dark humour )



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
Farmageddon said:
sapphi_snake said:
Johann said:
sapphi_snake said:

Developing countries would do good to have better sex ed, and better access to contraceptives.

We have ok sex ed, and contraceptives are free at health centers.

Not good enough appearently...

I think it has more to do with the families and the conditions in wich the poorer people are brought up than public sex ed and contraceptive access both of which are not nearly as bad as the levels of early pregnancy would make you believe.

Also, 14 is kind of the late end of the problem, there are girls having babies as soon as humanly possible.

Anyway, on-topic, poor girl, this must be hard. It is great dark humor tho.

O_O

Oh my... How young to girls start popping out babies over there? And BTW, isn't the world's youngest mother also from Brazil?

And do poor people have access to sex ed and contraceptives?

(P.S.: There's nothing funny about this, even in terms of dark humour )

Well, I don't have any hard data on it, but starts early. Now, that doesn't mean it's for every or even most girls in poverity, but it's no doubt a considerable amount and 14 is just not the extreme case.

Access to contraceptives is pretty good. They actually even "profilatically" (speling?) give condoms away at big events such as carnaval, for example. Besides that, I've never got them for free, but to the best of my knowlodge they're pretty avaible. This might not be the case in some very small locations, but that's just a guess and seen as the problem exists in areas where the coverage is good, i'd say it's not the main reason for it to exist.

Sex ed is a bit more complex. In schools i guess it varies a lot when it comes to specifc sex ed classes, but the subject is supposed to be given a lot of importance in science/biology classes "earlier" on. I'm sure there's some adjustments for the widely different realities there. I for one only attended public school in highschool, and it was a relatively "well-off" one, but even in the catholich school I attended up until about I was fifteen we had talks about that at around grade 5. I'm sure time has only made the situation more open since then.

Another aspect is off-school sex ed. the media, for example, does do a fair bit to help (amazing, uh?), both with reports on the issue of teenage pregnancy, prevention and urging parents to talk, etc, and in using the issue itself as a theme to be explored in things like soup operas. There government programs and various ongs working on it, some in more direct ways,

It sure could be better but I'd say all in all awareness of the situation and how to prevent it is pretty high when compared to the number of cases, and that's the reason I say it comes down to family and the conditions in which the child grows up more than anything else.

(My first reaction to the tittle was to laugh. Then I felt bad for the girl. Then I felt like an ass. Then I said w/e.)



Farmageddon said:

Well, I don't have any hard data on it, but starts early. Now, that doesn't mean it's for every or even most girls in poverity, but it's no doubt a considerable amount and 14 is just not the extreme case.

Access to contraceptives is pretty good. They actually even "profilatically" (speling?) give condoms away at big events such as carnaval, for example. Besides that, I've never got them for free, but to the best of my knowlodge they're pretty avaible. This might not be the case in some very small locations, but that's just a guess and seen as the problem exists in areas where the coverage is good, i'd say it's not the main reason for it to exist.

Sex ed is a bit more complex. In schools i guess it varies a lot when it comes to specifc sex ed classes, but the subject is supposed to be given a lot of importance in science/biology classes "earlier" on. I'm sure there's some adjustments for the widely different realities there. I for one only attended public school in highschool, and it was a relatively "well-off" one, but even in the catholich school I attended up until about I was fifteen we had talks about that at around grade 5. I'm sure time has only made the situation more open since then.

Another aspect is off-school sex ed. the media, for example, does do a fair bit to help (amazing, uh?), both with reports on the issue of teenage pregnancy, prevention and urging parents to talk, etc, and in using the issue itself as a theme to be explored in things like soup operas. There government programs and various ongs working on it, some in more direct ways,

It sure could be better but I'd say all in all awareness of the situation and how to prevent it is pretty high when compared to the number of cases, and that's the reason I say it comes down to family and the conditions in which the child grows up more than anything else.

(My first reaction to the tittle was to laugh. Then I felt bad for the girl. Then I felt like an ass. Then I said w/e.)

Well, things seem to be much better regarding sex ed in Brazil versus Romania. I now feel sad.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)