I want an "Asexual Day" where people parade fully clothed and avoid any physical contact. :P

So we shouldnt feel good abour our race because we are too influental on the world? You just gave another big reason why WE SHOULD celebrate and promote the pride of our heritage and race.

But doesnt that mean blacks and other races also shouldnt be proud of thier heritage and orgin? Oh, wait I forgot, we are the evil slave owning ones, and thus we should feel inferior and bad and make them feel superior, right?

Honestly no point in explaining it, most people just get it without needing any sort of explanation.

Excellent news! We heterosexuals have met oppression for so long. It's about time we stand up and fight for our rights!

Hopefully we will see the discrimination against males get some attention as well!

1) I read that as he not being confortable with excessively affeminate men or guys hooking up (granted, i may be reading it wrong). I realise you'll probably tell me "well that's homophobic" but it's in this sense that i think the whole thing is overblown.

I sure as hell am not confortable with those things, but I don't ostracise homosexuals. If I was in a position to give someone a job, I wouldn't take that into account, etc.

For the most part, I can coexist with gays with no problems (as he puts) but I might rather not be around some extreme examples, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, no one should be forced to like something about someone, all we have to do is respect. Not being confortable and disrespecting are two very different things.

And these extreme cases are not off-putting because of their sexual orientation. I'm sure lots of people wouldn't want to be around extreme machos, or hippies, or beggars. Actually, those groups are probably much worse off than gays in public acceptance. It's just about being too different, so spining that as homophoby kind of misses the point in many cases in my opinion.

Hell, I have long hair and don't shave on top of being an atheist. It's more likely I'd be denied a job than them, yet you don't see me parading :P

2) Great answer if you are going for effect, poor answer if you want a decent discussion :P

It's ridiculous to believe no one ever plays victim or exagerates their suffering, and it's even more ridiculous to believe a person is different in that simply because it's part of a minority.

3) And I'm pretty sure I know Brazil (and specially the metropolitan areas, which are the subject matter) a lot better than you do. Really, I believe you to be mostly rational, so tell me why are you telling me how my country is? Fundamentalist Catholic? You got to be kidding me. Catholics here are not very observant at all, mainly unatending and mostly just catholic on paper and holidays. Actually, most are hereticaly open. I mean it, it's not very hard to find so called catholics who are also adepts of spiritism, candomblé and so on. So much so that the fastest growing new church incorporates elements of those religions.The few actual Catholics are mostly old people, and even these are warm to gays.

The more fervorous adepts are the ones on the smaller denominations (a mixed bag of really religious but pretty accepting and foundamentalist people) and some people on things like Igreja Universal, of which I was talking earlier. the big picture, anyway (and here it's important to distinguish the more actually adept north and the center to south, which is where São Paulo is and what I'm talking about) shows a people where most denominate themselves something but go by life without really taking any of that into account.

They may be theoretically against homosexualism (note I didn't type homosexuals) but the huge majority doesn't really discriminate in any significant way.They wouldn't deny a job or avoid talking to gay people, for example.

That's not to say gays face no problems because of their orientation, but the situation here is not nearly as bad as you seem to believe it is. The population at large is pretty acceptant. If there are problems they stem from a small MINORITY which encompasses things from neo-nazi types to religious foundamentalists. Guess what, these people are not changing their minds because of a parade. Quite the opposite.

4) Sure, gay bashing day. You're pretty quick to judge, aren't you? Look, IF that's really what it turns out to be I bet you it will be heavily criticized (by the people at large, not just homosexuals) and find little adherence beyond the group promoting it. It will backfire dearly, and that's assuming it even actually passes.

Most people choose to stay quiet on the matter in the fear of being labeld as racists and and fasicst by  ''politcally correct people'' like yourself and sapphi

I didn't say you were racist? I wouldn't say I was PC either.

Well, I know YOU didnt say I was racist, maybe I wass generalazing too much. But I am sure if the person like sapphi thinks straight pride is homophobic than h e/she also thinks white pride is racist.

It is though, it's not main goal wouldn't be to celebrate white peoples goals or aims or w.e it'd be to outcast black people. That isn't the aim of say the opposite. Black pride (if there were such a thing) wouldn't be for the purpose of being racist or w/e against white people, it would be to celebrate black history.

It's pretty black and white, excuse the pun.