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RolStoppable said:
o_O.Q said:
RolStoppable said:
o_O.Q said:
seems to me that all the readers do is bust a blood vessel if the writer's view doesn't exactly align with their own and whine in the comment sections below... an example of that is the reaction when the 3ds was said to resemble an upgraded dsi in a recent article now i don't know if i'm blind or what but imo the 3ds looks extremely similar to the dsi and yet people freaked out over the guys opinion

Actually, that is a good example for there being something wrong with gamrFeed.

With both platforms at a $249.99 price point, it was clear, from a hardware perspective, which platform gave the user more value. Just looking at some gameplay footage alone will tell you that the PlayStation Vita is, essentially, a mini-PS3 in your pocket. The Nintendo 3DS on the other hand, looks like a slightly upgraded DSi at this point. There are plenty of other features and gimmicks on each platform. But for the same $249.99 price point, if you told someone you could get better looking games on one system, chances are they'll go with the one with the better graphics. Nintendo's recent price drop has wiped away that preconceived extra value that the PSVita may have offered, as the system is $80 cheaper, only $20 away from the initial PSP and DS price gap.

This is either blatant trolling or piss poor writing, in both cases an editor-in-chief is dearly needed. Hardware perspective, specifically gameplay footage, the context is clear in this case. No surprise that people objected to this.

first off this needs to get out of the way - its the guy's opinion...

but regardless be specific about which part exactly you disagree with... "Hardware perspective, specifically gameplay footage, the context is clear in this case" i'm confused do you disagree with him that the vita has better looking games?

An "opinion" isn't a shield that protects you from everything.

I just quoted your post, so what I was talking about should be clear. I bolded the important parts for you.

lay out for me the significant changes in design moving from the dsi to the 3ds and by that i'm talking about the design or appearance which would be related to... "looks like a slightly upgraded" imo it does look like a slightly upgraded 3ds

in terms of the psv its said to have power and visual capability that rivals the ps3 due to its smaller size which i can understand leads to this point "PlayStation Vita is, essentially, a mini-PS3 in your pocket" but i do agree that thats exaggeration



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Hahaha, I'm so happy to be off the team these days... especially after reading through this thread...
When I do look over there, it's aggressive, baiting, and simply shallow/uninformed, which I don't remember being the case last year.

To people complaining about regurgitating news - most sites to that, and with varying results. Kotaku posts an article, then does Destructoid, then Joystiq, Siliconera, and such. Notice that the news topic within all of them is the same, but the writing is different, maybe the writer adds his opinion or a joke, or some good info about the game - that's not something I would call regurgitating news, and back in my day, it's the straight up news that brought the news section THE most hits, 2x-3x-4x times articles get now, even the most random games could get 1k+.

Now, I do admit to making a couple of baitful articles back when I was on the team, but mainly I was just posting news with my own twist - the ones that people liked, I even have saved in .htm files on my PC. It just makes me feel good. And heck, I was doing great - the best of all the writers back then. That is not necessarily a bad direction, and news had an encompassing audience on this site - not everybody visits many gaming sites but this one.

You simply bring people what they want, and you do it well. What's happening right now is... neither. I'd be really hard pressed if someone asked me to find an audience for "Sony is the next Nintendo" (that article still cracks me up).



RolStoppable said:
o_O.Q said:

lay out for me the significant changes in design moving from the dsi to the 3ds and by that i'm talking about the design or appearance which would be related to... "looks like a slightly upgraded" imo it does look like a slightly upgraded 3ds

in terms of the psv its said to have power and visual capability that rivals the ps3 due to its smaller size which i can understand leads to this point "PlayStation Vita is, essentially, a mini-PS3 in your pocket" but i do agree that thats exaggeration

The author of the article was specifically talking about the processing power which is implied by the mention of gameplay footage and he does so for both, the PS Vita and the 3DS. Otherwise the use of the words "on the other hand" makes no sense at all.

The claim that the PS Vita could be seen as a mini-PS3 in your pocket is correct. However, the claim that the 3DS only looks like a slighty more powerful DSi is verifiably false.

Do you believe that the 3DS is only slightly more powerful than the DSi? Yes or no?

please quote for me where the guy reffers to "processing power" he never even mentioned "processing" or "power" in that article...

he spoke of how things look thats all he said the 3ds and dsi are similar in terms of appearance and said that the psv can be seen as a portable ps3 which can be interpreted several ways for example it has similar aesthetics, game visuals look similar etc

however no i do not believe that the 3ds is only slighlty more powerful than the dsi although personally i havent seen anything on it so far that surpasses the best i've seen on the iphone or psp with the 3d off... but lol i must say though i'm seeing a rare side to nintendo gamers are you really trying to argue about power on a nintendo platform? i thought that didn't matter?



I'm honestly curious why people complain, I was fairly certain a lot of the articles in question were editorials, not news. The stuff about 3DS and PSV and a lot of the articles you guys are complaining about are in fact meant to be opinion. You can't have a wrong opinion.

Also, I frankly agree: the 3DS is just a prettier DSi, but then again the PSV is just a prettier PSP. I'm not seeing why it's such a big deal, to be honest. hell, the SNES was just a more powerful NES, the PS2 was essentially just a more powerful PS1, the Gameboy Advance was just a more powerful game boy.

So yeah, when it all comes down to it, I Really don't see why that quote is any less truthful than what you're all claiming. Maybe you guys need to calm down a bit. (For the record, I do not work for GamrFeed or GamrConnect or anything like that, I'm just a review guy, so this isn't some misguided attempt at self defense, just an honest opinion on the matter.)



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What you actually mean OP is that you don't like to read editorials that feature your console(s) of choice in a less than bright light. But then again, who does?

It's ok, breathe in and then out. The masses will decide which one comes out on top. We're but a drop in the middle of the ocean.



Runa216 said:
I'm honestly curious why people complain, I was fairly certain a lot of the articles in question were editorials, not news. The stuff about 3DS and PSV and a lot of the articles you guys are complaining about are in fact meant to be opinion. You can't have a wrong opinion.

Also, I frankly agree: the 3DS is just a prettier DSi, but then again the PSV is just a prettier PSP. I'm not seeing why it's such a big deal, to be honest. hell, the SNES was just a more powerful NES, the PS2 was essentially just a more powerful PS1, the Gameboy Advance was just a more powerful game boy.

So yeah, when it all comes down to it, I Really don't see why that quote is any less truthful than what you're all claiming. Maybe you guys need to calm down a bit. (For the record, I do not work for GamrFeed or GamrConnect or anything like that, I'm just a review guy, so this isn't some misguided attempt at self defense, just an honest opinion on the matter.)


It's not just the editiorials. The news that shows up on the site (hours or sometimes days late) often has snide comments and false information. This news section on this site sucks. That's why people complain.



Wagram said:


It's not just the editiorials. The news that shows up on the site (hours or sometimes days late) often has snide comments and false information. This news section on this site sucks. That's why people complain.

ah, that's a different story then.  news is supposed to be unbiased (though it hardly ever is.)  I stay out of the department so I have no idea, but I think they've done really well with their editorials...got a lot of people arguing didn't they?  LAst I checked that's what an editorial was supposed to do, incite discussion. if everyone just calmly agreed it wouldn't be doing its job! 



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Chrizum said:
Immortal said:
You can't blame them. gamrFeed's job is to get hits - nothing more, nothing less. And, if you compare the number of views that "Sony is the Next Nintendo" as a fanboy article with no proper evidence supporting it gets (over 16000, I think?) to most of the objective sales analysis articles (from under a thousand to less than five thousand), it's quite clear that the former is far, far better at getting the job done.
We should just be glad that VGC has a couple of objective articles, even if they are getting fewer and farther in between.

Bingo. This strategy is extremely short-term though, as it comes with the price of users getting bored with the same old fanboy drivel which will eventually drive them away.

Hardly. Users will remain here for "the sales figures and the community" (that line is so overused, it's getting amusing, xD) and still view the articles every so often because, they don't actually lose anything by reading the article, regardless of whether or not it would have been written better by a monkey on a typewriter. Therefore, by publishing flamebait that hasn't been proofread, gamrFeed gets more hits despite putting in way less effort in terms of editing and accuracy without losing any significant proportion of its readership since they all stay for the rest of the site.

Businesswise, it's a genius strategy!



 

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RolStoppable said:
Runa216 said:
Wagram said:

It's not just the editiorials. The news that shows up on the site (hours or sometimes days late) often has snide comments and false information. This news section on this site sucks. That's why people complain.

ah, that's a different story then.  news is supposed to be unbiased (though it hardly ever is.)  I stay out of the department so I have no idea, but I think they've done really well with their editorials...got a lot of people arguing didn't they?  LAst I checked that's what an editorial was supposed to do, incite discussion. if everyone just calmly agreed it wouldn't be doing its job! 

The problem is that gamrFeed editorials more often than not are like this, with the only difference being that they are written from a serious angle.

I'm not exactly seeing an issue.  sure, it's a little silly and lighthearted, but the point of that article was to talk about Sony being almost as childlike as Nintendo at times...I think it fits.  Plus I noticed a lot of the things they pointed out on there independent of the articls, so I actually agree.  



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