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MARCUSDJACKSON on 05 August 2011
HokageTenshi said:

i'm more hoping that all PS3 games get patch in future to use all VITA feature as a controller to let us have another perhaps a better choice to play those games if we have a PSVITA... ^^

see this is an idea.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 11 August 2011

Will Ninty copy this feature in the next 3DS redesigns to allow Wii U to help saving it?



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Euphoria14 on 11 August 2011
Player1x3 said:
Joelcool7 said:

Well as much as I think it sounds like a great idea it will not compete with WiiU.

First off the Vita costs like 250-300$ so anyone wanting to play a PS3 game and experiance something similiar to WiiU will have to spend like 600$ to do so. Also that being said many won't buy a Vita and PS3 so how large will the install base be? Big enough for developers to actually take advantage of the feature? Probably not.

In the end the WiiU controller will come with the WiiU and even if Sony managed to get an install base of like 5-million people owning Vita's and PS3's the WiiU will dwarf PS3 in power. Customers just won't get the same quality or bang for their buck buying a PS3 and Vita as they would simply buying a WiiU.

However I find it pretty awsome that yet again before the device is even out Sony is already trying to copy it!


How do you happen to know the bolded statments? As for your last sentence, you do know PSP and PS3 had this feutre for almost 4 years now?

It is also funny that he is saying that since the whole PS3/Vita thing has been talked about since Jan-Feb of this year.

Let it go though since it is a battle you won't win. Everyone knows that Nintendo thinks up everything first and Remote play never existed. Not to mention that many smartphones and tablets can already do things like this.

Like I said though, it doesn't matter, Nintendo never copies and they are the only innovators in the industry and everyone copys them, like when Sony added an analog stick onto their handheld... oh wait... I mean when Sony added console game streaming to a handheld device... oh wait... my bad, sorry, I meant when Tablets and/or Smartphones added handheld/TV streaming ability while also adding a new control layout (Touch)... oh wait...

Stupid Sony and Tablet/Smartphone companies, they should of at least copied right and did both at one time (Touch and console/handheld stream gaming)... oh wait, we heard of Vita doing something like at the start of the year, before we knew anything official on the WiiU.

 

My point? Nobody is copying Nintendo here, rather Nintendo is the one doing the copying, or rather enhancing, although that doesn't count and is still considered copying because they didn't start the initial idea. (This is an argument brought up when people talk about Sony and the dual analog).

I have all of this correct right? I am just going on what arguments were considered valid up until this point, although I am sure the rules will change, as they usually do.

 



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Joelcool7 on 13 August 2011
Euphoria14 said:
Player1x3 said:
Joelcool7 said:

Well as much as I think it sounds like a great idea it will not compete with WiiU.

First off the Vita costs like 250-300$ so anyone wanting to play a PS3 game and experiance something similiar to WiiU will have to spend like 600$ to do so. Also that being said many won't buy a Vita and PS3 so how large will the install base be? Big enough for developers to actually take advantage of the feature? Probably not.

In the end the WiiU controller will come with the WiiU and even if Sony managed to get an install base of like 5-million people owning Vita's and PS3's the WiiU will dwarf PS3 in power. Customers just won't get the same quality or bang for their buck buying a PS3 and Vita as they would simply buying a WiiU.

However I find it pretty awsome that yet again before the device is even out Sony is already trying to copy it!


How do you happen to know the bolded statments? As for your last sentence, you do know PSP and PS3 had this feutre for almost 4 years now?

It is also funny that he is saying that since the whole PS3/Vita thing has been talked about since Jan-Feb of this year.

Let it go though since it is a battle you won't win. Everyone knows that Nintendo thinks up everything first and Remote play never existed. Not to mention that many smartphones and tablets can already do things like this.

Like I said though, it doesn't matter, Nintendo never copies and they are the only innovators in the industry and everyone copys them, like when Sony added an analog stick onto their handheld... oh wait... I mean when Sony added console game streaming to a handheld device... oh wait... my bad, sorry, I meant when Tablets and/or Smartphones added handheld/TV streaming ability while also adding a new control layout (Touch)... oh wait...

Stupid Sony and Tablet/Smartphone companies, they should of at least copied right and did both at one time (Touch and console/handheld stream gaming)... oh wait, we heard of Vita doing something like at the start of the year, before we knew anything official on the WiiU.

 

My point? Nobody is copying Nintendo here, rather Nintendo is the one doing the copying, or rather enhancing, although that doesn't count and is still considered copying because they didn't start the initial idea. (This is an argument brought up when people talk about Sony and the dual analog).

I have all of this correct right? I am just going on what arguments were considered valid up until this point, although I am sure the rules will change, as they usually do.

 


Dude I never stated Sony was copying remote play. That is only one of the WiiU's controllers features. WiiU's controller allows it to help control games on your console. It offers a second screen to most games coming out, not a feature or innovation entirely to home console gaming as we've been playing dual screen games for years.

In the end dual screen gaming in general was pioneered by Nintendo. Before PSP launched and before PS3. Also the use of gyroscopic's and other things in the controller being fused with the action on the main screen is something no game console manufacturer has done before. Never in the past could you play an FPS and look around the room on a controller. Or an on rails game where your TV shows oncoming hostiles and you can look around in a 360 degree angle to shoot targets.

Your statements are more delusional than anything I've ever posted!

LOL Sony added an existing invention that Nintendo pioneered to their handheld? Their had been analog sticks in gaming for nearly a decade before Sony added the feature to PSP. I'd hardly say that was an innovation. As for the touch screen well the DS was the first game console to feature a touch screen with its stylus. However stylus's have been used in the computer industry for again like half a decade prior to DS.

As for the touch screen yah its been around for along time, your point I bet you couldn't even name the earlier tablets that used both voice recognition and touch with a stylus or finger. I'm pretty sure if you tried you'd either have to do some research or it would be a fanboyish remark based in ignorance.

Nobody is saying Nintendo was original in the development of the WiiU hardware, not much new was announced. But its how the hardware is used that is innovative. Using the Vita to control PS3 games would be stealing the control scheme that Nintendo is pioneering. You say the idea has been around a few months well guess what Nintendo has been developing this technology for years so don't start that crap.

Your right on one part though. Nobody is going to win a debate on the grounds that Nintendo is copying Sony or innovated less or was less important to the industry. Not because I'm a die hard fan but because its a complete fallacy!



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Player1x3 on 13 August 2011
Joelcool7 said:
Euphoria14 said:
Player1x3 said:
Joelcool7 said:

Well as much as I think it sounds like a great idea it will not compete with WiiU.

First off the Vita costs like 250-300$ so anyone wanting to play a PS3 game and experiance something similiar to WiiU will have to spend like 600$ to do so. Also that being said many won't buy a Vita and PS3 so how large will the install base be? Big enough for developers to actually take advantage of the feature? Probably not.

In the end the WiiU controller will come with the WiiU and even if Sony managed to get an install base of like 5-million people owning Vita's and PS3's the WiiU will dwarf PS3 in power. Customers just won't get the same quality or bang for their buck buying a PS3 and Vita as they would simply buying a WiiU.

However I find it pretty awsome that yet again before the device is even out Sony is already trying to copy it!


How do you happen to know the bolded statments? As for your last sentence, you do know PSP and PS3 had this feutre for almost 4 years now?

It is also funny that he is saying that since the whole PS3/Vita thing has been talked about since Jan-Feb of this year.

Let it go though since it is a battle you won't win. Everyone knows that Nintendo thinks up everything first and Remote play never existed. Not to mention that many smartphones and tablets can already do things like this.

Like I said though, it doesn't matter, Nintendo never copies and they are the only innovators in the industry and everyone copys them, like when Sony added an analog stick onto their handheld... oh wait... I mean when Sony added console game streaming to a handheld device... oh wait... my bad, sorry, I meant when Tablets and/or Smartphones added handheld/TV streaming ability while also adding a new control layout (Touch)... oh wait...

Stupid Sony and Tablet/Smartphone companies, they should of at least copied right and did both at one time (Touch and console/handheld stream gaming)... oh wait, we heard of Vita doing something like at the start of the year, before we knew anything official on the WiiU.

 

My point? Nobody is copying Nintendo here, rather Nintendo is the one doing the copying, or rather enhancing, although that doesn't count and is still considered copying because they didn't start the initial idea. (This is an argument brought up when people talk about Sony and the dual analog).

I have all of this correct right? I am just going on what arguments were considered valid up until this point, although I am sure the rules will change, as they usually do.

 


Dude I never stated Sony was copying remote play. That is only one of the WiiU's controllers features. WiiU's controller allows it to help control games on your console. It offers a second screen to most games coming out, not a feature or innovation entirely to home console gaming as we've been playing dual screen games for years.

In the end dual screen gaming in general was pioneered by Nintendo. Before PSP launched and before PS3. Also the use of gyroscopic's and other things in the controller being fused with the action on the main screen is something no game console manufacturer has done before. Never in the past could you play an FPS and look around the room on a controller. Or an on rails game where your TV shows oncoming hostiles and you can look around in a 360 degree angle to shoot targets.

Your statements are more delusional than anything I've ever posted!

LOL Sony added an existing invention that Nintendo pioneered to their handheld? Their had been analog sticks in gaming for nearly a decade before Sony added the feature to PSP. I'd hardly say that was an innovation. As for the touch screen well the DS was the first game console to feature a touch screen with its stylus. However stylus's have been used in the computer industry for again like half a decade prior to DS.

As for the touch screen yah its been around for along time, your point I bet you couldn't even name the earlier tablets that used both voice recognition and touch with a stylus or finger. I'm pretty sure if you tried you'd either have to do some research or it would be a fanboyish remark based in ignorance.

Nobody is saying Nintendo was original in the development of the WiiU hardware, not much new was announced. But its how the hardware is used that is innovative. Using the Vita to control PS3 games would be stealing the control scheme that Nintendo is pioneering. You say the idea has been around a few months well guess what Nintendo has been developing this technology for years so don't start that crap.

Your right on one part though. Nobody is going to win a debate on the grounds that Nintendo is copying Sony or innovated less or was less important to the industry. Not because I'm a die hard fan but because its a complete fallacy!

Again, how? You can controll PS3 games like Lair using the PSP. And that is 4 years from now. So how could Sony be stealing this, when they not only had the idea but put it to work 4 years before wiiU was even announced? Also, DS wasnt a first hadheld with the touchscreen, and there was no handheld with an analog stick before PSP



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Player1x3 on 16 August 2011
RolStoppable said:
Player1x3 said:
Joelcool7 said:

Dude I never stated Sony was copying remote play. That is only one of the WiiU's controllers features. WiiU's controller allows it to help control games on your console. It offers a second screen to most games coming out, not a feature or innovation entirely to home console gaming as we've been playing dual screen games for years.

In the end dual screen gaming in general was pioneered by Nintendo. Before PSP launched and before PS3. Also the use of gyroscopic's and other things in the controller being fused with the action on the main screen is something no game console manufacturer has done before. Never in the past could you play an FPS and look around the room on a controller. Or an on rails game where your TV shows oncoming hostiles and you can look around in a 360 degree angle to shoot targets.

Your statements are more delusional than anything I've ever posted!

LOL Sony added an existing invention that Nintendo pioneered to their handheld? Their had been analog sticks in gaming for nearly a decade before Sony added the feature to PSP. I'd hardly say that was an innovation. As for the touch screen well the DS was the first game console to feature a touch screen with its stylus. However stylus's have been used in the computer industry for again like half a decade prior to DS.

As for the touch screen yah its been around for along time, your point I bet you couldn't even name the earlier tablets that used both voice recognition and touch with a stylus or finger. I'm pretty sure if you tried you'd either have to do some research or it would be a fanboyish remark based in ignorance.

Nobody is saying Nintendo was original in the development of the WiiU hardware, not much new was announced. But its how the hardware is used that is innovative. Using the Vita to control PS3 games would be stealing the control scheme that Nintendo is pioneering. You say the idea has been around a few months well guess what Nintendo has been developing this technology for years so don't start that crap.

Your right on one part though. Nobody is going to win a debate on the grounds that Nintendo is copying Sony or innovated less or was less important to the industry. Not because I'm a die hard fan but because its a complete fallacy!

Again, how? You can controll PS3 games like Lair using the PSP. And that is 4 years from now. So how could Sony be stealing this, when they not only had the idea but put it to work 4 years before wiiU was even announced? Also, DS wasnt a first hadheld with the touchscreen, and there was no handheld with an analog stick before PSP

The GBA was used as controller for the Gamecube in 2003, so you are both wrong anyway.

Excep that we are talking about a console game being displayed on a handheld, not just beung controlled by a handheld



Gnac on 16 August 2011
Player1x3 said:
RolStoppable said:

The GBA was used as controller for the Gamecube in 2003, so you are both wrong anyway.

Excep that we are talking about a console game being displayed on a handheld, not just beung controlled by a handheld

Good thing that the GBA's screen was used in that mode to display games, then



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Joelcool7 on 16 August 2011
RolStoppable said:
Player1x3 said:
Joelcool7 said:

Dude I never stated Sony was copying remote play. That is only one of the WiiU's controllers features. WiiU's controller allows it to help control games on your console. It offers a second screen to most games coming out, not a feature or innovation entirely to home console gaming as we've been playing dual screen games for years.

In the end dual screen gaming in general was pioneered by Nintendo. Before PSP launched and before PS3. Also the use of gyroscopic's and other things in the controller being fused with the action on the main screen is something no game console manufacturer has done before. Never in the past could you play an FPS and look around the room on a controller. Or an on rails game where your TV shows oncoming hostiles and you can look around in a 360 degree angle to shoot targets.

Your statements are more delusional than anything I've ever posted!

LOL Sony added an existing invention that Nintendo pioneered to their handheld? Their had been analog sticks in gaming for nearly a decade before Sony added the feature to PSP. I'd hardly say that was an innovation. As for the touch screen well the DS was the first game console to feature a touch screen with its stylus. However stylus's have been used in the computer industry for again like half a decade prior to DS.

As for the touch screen yah its been around for along time, your point I bet you couldn't even name the earlier tablets that used both voice recognition and touch with a stylus or finger. I'm pretty sure if you tried you'd either have to do some research or it would be a fanboyish remark based in ignorance.

Nobody is saying Nintendo was original in the development of the WiiU hardware, not much new was announced. But its how the hardware is used that is innovative. Using the Vita to control PS3 games would be stealing the control scheme that Nintendo is pioneering. You say the idea has been around a few months well guess what Nintendo has been developing this technology for years so don't start that crap.

Your right on one part though. Nobody is going to win a debate on the grounds that Nintendo is copying Sony or innovated less or was less important to the industry. Not because I'm a die hard fan but because its a complete fallacy!

Again, how? You can controll PS3 games like Lair using the PSP. And that is 4 years from now. So how could Sony be stealing this, when they not only had the idea but put it to work 4 years before wiiU was even announced? Also, DS wasnt a first hadheld with the touchscreen, and there was no handheld with an analog stick before PSP

The GBA was used as controller for the Gamecube in 2003, so you are both wrong anyway.

How am I wrong? I said remote play not connected to the console. Can you not play a PS3 game with your PSP from a long distance (I don't know never tried) and can't you access your PS3 from all over the globe via wifi? Of course I am aware that you could play your GCN with your GBA years ago. I loved my Crystal Chronicles and FourSwords back in the day. Owned both and played with my GBA.

So I can't see how I was wrong? I was talking remote play with the GameCube your handheld was connected directly to the GameCube. But as usual this just proves yet again another case of Sony copying Nintendo and Sony fans trying to take credit for the idea as origional and Sony's!



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